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Re: Gutmann Soundwave Therapy

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (James A. Donald)
Fri Feb 1 09:22:24 2008

Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 18:42:03 +1000
From: "James A. Donald" <jamesd@echeque.com>
To: Cryptography <cryptography@metzdowd.com>
In-Reply-To: <20080131150703.GX3717@sliepen.org>

Guus Sliepen wrote:
> Peter's write-up was the reason I subscribed to this cryptography
> mailing list. After a while the anger/hurt feelings I had disappeared.
> I knew then that Peter was right in his arguments. Nowadays I can look
> at Peter's write-up more objectively and I can see that it is not as
> ad-hominem as it felt back then, although the whole soundwave paragraph
> still sounds very childish ;)
> 
> When tinc 2.0 will ever come out (unfortunately I don't have a lot of
> time to work on it these days), it will probably use the GnuTLS library
> and authenticate and connect daemons with TLS. For performance reasons,
> you want to tunnel network packets via UDP instead of TCP, so hopefully
> there is a working DTLS implementation as well then.

I have been considering the problem of encrypted channels over UDP or 
IP.  TLS will not work for this, since it assumes and provides a 
reliable, and therefore non timely channel, whereas what one wishes to 
provide is a channel where timeliness may be required at the expense of 
reliability.

I have figured out a solution, which I may post here if you are interested.

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