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RE: Dutch Transport Card Broken
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jim Cheesman)
Wed Jan 30 12:16:08 2008
From: "Jim Cheesman" <jcheesman@grupoburke.com>
To: "'James A. Donald'" <jamesd@echeque.com>,
"'Richard Salz'" <rsalz@us.ibm.com>
Cc: "'Cryptography'" <cryptography@metzdowd.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:00:45 +0100
In-Reply-To: <47A008C0.5040503@echeque.com>
James A. Donald:
> >> SSL is layered on top of TCP, and then one layers
> >> one's actual protocol on top of SSL, with the result
> >> that a transaction involves a painfully large number
> >> of round trips.
Richard Salz wrote:
> Perhaps theoretically painful, but in practice this is
> not the case; commerce on the web is the
> counter-example.
James A. Donald:
> The delay is often humanly perceptible. If humanly
> perceptible, too much.
I respectfully disagree - I'd argue that a short wait is actually more
reassuring to the average user (Hey! The System's checking me out!) than an
instantaneous connection would be.
Adding in a false wait (a nice pop-up, a progress bar and a snake-oily
security message) would be even better...
Regards,
Jim Cheesman
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