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Re: PlayStation 3 predicts next US president

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (James A. Donald)
Sun Dec 2 17:44:36 2007

Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 06:19:18 +1000
From: "James A. Donald" <jamesd@echeque.com>
To: William Allen Simpson <william.allen.simpson@gmail.com>
CC: cryptography@metzdowd.com, hash-forum@nist.gov
In-Reply-To: <4752DCAC.9030006@gmail.com>

James A. Donald wrote:
 >> A notary is a certifier.  Have you ever seen a notary
 >> read the stuff he notarizes, let alone generate it?

William Allen Simpson wrote:
 > Actually, I deal with notaries regularly.  I've always
 > had to physically sign while watched by the notary.
 > They always read the stuff notarized, and my
 > supporting identification, because they are notarizing
 > a signature (not a document).

  Not true.  Because they are notarizing a signature, not
a document, they  check my supporting identification,
but never read the document being signed.

 > And yes, they always generate the stamp or imprint
 > they sign. To do otherwise would be irresponsible (and
 > illegal).

If they were to generate an MD5 hash of documents
prepared by someone else, then the attack described
(eight different human readable documents with the same
MD5 hash) works.

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