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Re: [APO-L] National Policy Question
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael Ryan Gallagher)
Tue Apr 29 13:53:10 2003
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 13:53:34 -0400
Reply-To: Michael Ryan Gallagher <famtree@UDel.Edu>
From: Michael Ryan Gallagher <famtree@UDel.Edu>
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
Little harsh on the first note- but yes, there is a hierarchy. That tone
may turn away volunteers. I certainly as I volunteer WILL not want to have
that constant possibility over my head of being fired, since I am a worrying
perfectionistic person.
Michael Gallagher
----- Original Message -----
From: "Price, Todd" <Todd.Price@Detroitdiesel.com>
To: <APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [APO-L] National Policy Question
> The legality and legitimacy of said action is this...
>
> Section/Region/National Staff (Volunteers) serve at the descretion of
their
> respective Section Chairs, Region Directions, and National Program
Directors
> (i.e. Elected Officials). These individuals can generally hire/fire any
> member of their "staff" at will, and the purpose of said volunteers is to
> promote the program of their Section Chair/Region Director/Program
Director
> to the best of their ability, under the assumption that said elected
> officials are representing the best interests of the Undergraduates to
whom
> they answer.
>
> If the various Chairs & Directors are in support of volunteer
registration,
> and think it is a good idea, the available choices number two: either get
> registered or respectfully decline your staff/volunteer position. It's
that
> simple.
>
> All of the previous debate, though interesting, is moot unless a Section
> Chair or Region Director wants to chime in, take and argue the position
that
> it is not a requirement for their Section/Region.
>
> ****
>
> Now, on a seperate note, why does everyone have such an issue with this?
It
> is not as if I can't make a few calls and find out where you live, no
matter
> who or where you are. You can do the same for me. The only issues I can
> find that might cause concern are as follows:
>
> 1. The time it takes to fill out and sign the form.
> 2. Having to acknowledge and sign the Risk Management policy.
>
> If anyone wants to argue #1, they probably don't need to be a volunteer.
As
> to #2, if you want to serve the undergraduates of this organization, then
> you need to be the one to set the example. If you want to require such
> action from the Chapters, there should be little reason against filling
out
> this registration form.
>
> My 2 Cents,
>
> Todd Price
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: michael shulman [mailto:mikeinapo@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 9:31 AM
> To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
> Subject: Re: [APO-L] National Policy Question
>
>
> I would like to quesion the legality and legitimacy of said action..
> The amedment the the manual was not mentioned at all on the floor by the
> board (who would essentially be the only ones to know the information).
>
> During the debate the databse quesiton came up where I asked the geek
> question if the national office had the databse capability to do this and
> the answer was no
> So, what changed?
>
> LFS
> Michael Shulman
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: Derek Cashman <derek.cashman@vcu.edu>
> >Reply-To: Derek Cashman <derek.cashman@vcu.edu>
> >To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
> >Subject: Re: [APO-L] National Policy Question
> >Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 22:46:31 -0300
> >
> > > I came across this link
> > > http://www.apor2.org/index.php/IVD
> > > Which is a memo from Bob London which discusses mandatory volunteer
> > > registration, but if I recall correctly, the national convention
> >qualshed
> > > that plan (the active alumni question came up here).
> > > If I'm mistaken please tell me so.
> > > LFS
> > > Michael Shulman
> >
> >Before the National Convention, the Board passed an amendment to the
> >National Board of Directors' Policy Manual, which established
> >mandatory volunteer registration. This was done, I believe, at the
> >July 2002 Board Meeting. There was a proposal introduced at the
> >convention, which went before the Alumni Relations & Internal
> >Volunteer Development Reference Committee (which I served on), to
> >establish mandatory volunteer registration. This was a resolution
> >which would have enhanced the National Board Policy Manual. Basically,
> >it contained the same thing except added a provision that would have
> >printed membership cards / certificates to all of the volunteers, and
> >included a subscription to the Torch & Trefoil as well. Due to the
> >printing costs involved, the resolution also proposed a small fee,
> >equal to the Annual Active Membership Dues (AAMD) for an active
> >member, except that the fee would be waived for Life Members, since
> >they already get the T&T anyway. The resolution passed the committee
> >unanimously, but was killed on the floor. The reason it did not pass
> >the floor was mainly because several section chairs spoke up against
> >the registration fee. Although a lot of them also felt that many
> >volunteers already spend a considerable chunk of money going to
> >conferences, and on photocopying and mailings and other expenses
> >(which is, of course, tax-deductible - although I'm not sure a lot of
> >people know that this is tax-deductible; or others may not itemize
> >their taxes).
> >
> >However, despite the convention's proceedings, the National Board
> >Policy Manual amendment, which officially went into effect right after
> >convention, stands. So there is still mandatory volunteer
> >registration, albeit with no fee, and no registration
> >cards/certificates or Torch & Trefoils delivered to the volunteers. So
> >Bob London is essentially following the Board of Directors' Policy
> >Manual in this case.
> >
> >The reason for mandatory volunteer registration, of course, is so that
> >the national office can keep track of who is volunteering. This
> >information is, of course, important when considering relationships
> >with other national organizations, as well as applying for national
> >awards like the Point of Light, or grants, etc,...
> >
> >
> >
> >* Derek Cashman (webmaster@apo83.org)
> >* Technology & Electronic Communications (TEC) Coordinator
> >* Region III; Alpha Phi Omega
>
>
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