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Re: [APO-L] Intereting Photos of one of our Founding Advisors
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brown Michael-EMB021)
Wed Feb 19 10:22:18 2003
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 10:22:11 -0500
Reply-To: Brown Michael-EMB021 <Michael.R.Brown@motorola.com>
From: Brown Michael-EMB021 <Michael.R.Brown@motorola.com>
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
>From: Michael Ryan Gallagher <famtree@UDel.Edu>
>
>My Boy Scout troop has a sister Sea Scout Ship (Explorer or Venturer, you
>got me on that one). Chief Scout of the World is Baden-Powell, Chief Scout
>Executive in the BSA CEO; there may have been another Chief Scout among the
>Americans who founded the BSA and small groups that merged into it on
>February 8, 1910, so Chief Sea Scout would be the top I think.
A little Scouting history.
Robert Baden-Powell held the title of Chief Scout of the Boy Scout Association in the UK. He was later declared Chief Scout of the World at the first World Jamboree in 1920.
In the BSA, the Chief Scout Executive is the top professional, equivalent to our National Executive Director.
The BSA has only used the title of "Chief Scout" for a few people. The first person to hold that title in the BSA was Ernest Thompson Seton, who was Chief Scout of the BSA from 1910 to 1915. The title would not be used again until James West was given that title in the 1940s when he retired as Chief Scout Executive.
During the early 20s, James "Kimo" Wilder held the title of "Chief Seascout" of the BSA, as the top volunteer leader of Sea Scouting in the BSA. He was the only one to ever hold that title, it was never used by anyone else since then. In Sea Scouts, nautical titles are used for positions. So they use the term "Commodore" for those who are the Committee Chairman for Council, Area, Regional, and National Sea Scout Committees. A Council Scout Executive would be called "Local Pilot" or "Squadron Pilot" and the Chief Scout Executive would be called the "Chief Pilot", and the like. "Portmaster" seems to be a step down from "Pilot", so prehaps Herbert G. Horton was a member of the professional Sea Scouting staff, since he was refered to as "Fleet Portmaster", and Fleet refers to National in Sea Scouting terminology.
If you check out H. Roe Bartle's bio, there is a picture of him in a Sea Scout uniform. I'll have to verify, but most likely as Council Scout Executive, it should indicate he was the Local Pilot of his council.
Michael Brown
APO LM & TB
ADT Scouting & Youth Services Advisor
Member, National Scouting & Youth Services Committee
Venturing Crews #1838 & 2564
