[23529] in APO-L
Re: [APO-L] Question of posting National Board Policy Manual online
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brown Michael-EMB021)
Wed Feb 5 13:09:12 2003
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:08:15 -0500
Reply-To: Brown Michael-EMB021 <Michael.R.Brown@motorola.com>
From: Brown Michael-EMB021 <Michael.R.Brown@motorola.com>
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
>Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:05:34 -0500
>From: "Finder, Randolph J Mr NGB-ARNG" <Randolph.Finder@ngb.army.mil>
Since I more or less like Randy breakdown, I wanted to comment on what is said here.
>I'm going to split our desire for security into three pieces:
>1)Ritual based (ceremonies and such)
>2)Corporate based (Board Policy Manual , how much Judy Mitchell makes ,
>Marilyn Tischinski's annual review, etc.)
>3)Contact based (phone numbers and address for the board, chapters and
>extension efforts)
>
>1)Ritual Based. Alpha Phi omega is nowhere near at the level as other Greek
>Letter Organizations and Adult Fraternal Societies. Some of the Social
>Fraternities print their ritual books themselves and deliver them by hand
>only... The fact that this fraternity hired a National Executive Director
>who was not a brother and as such shouldn't have seen the ritual (until a
>chapter honorary/advisored him, which they now have) indicates that we have
>some level of give and take on the subject
True. Something that was mentioned earlier on in this general thread, but which I think got passed over, is that some groups are putting copies of such 'secret documents' on-line, but protecting them with password that only their members should know. An example is the Order of the Arrow (part of the BSA), which has put up some of their secured documents (but not their ceremonies) on-line as PDF files and protected them with watchwords only their members should know. I think it reasonable that APO do the same, tho I'm not sure I necessarily like the idea of the rituals being included with this group.
>2)Corporate based. The comparison should not be with IBM or Coca-Cola, it
>needs to be with the United Way or BSA or Circle K. I don't know if
>publishing how much Judy Mitchell makes would put the fraternity at risk of
>legal action, but I wouldn't want to try it. OTOH, the fact that The NED and
>the DCS are hired directly by the board and the others are hired by the NED
>(Not sure on Development Director) is something that does not have the same
>need for privacy.
I agree that we should compare apples to apples, and we should be comparing APO in this area to other not-for profit service orgs. But for me, your examples don't go together. I'm not the legal type, but I put stuff like the the Board Policy Manual on the same level as our National Bylaws: a document that all our members should have ready access to. If some say this should *not* be on-line due to concerns that non-members might get it, fine. But I feel any Brother who wants a copy (hard or soft), should be able to get one. Financial data is already published in the T&T and made available to all. The other stuff (reviews of Fraternity employees, etc), is something I view is limited to only those who need to know. So that kind of information should be restricted.
>3)Contact based. The national fraternity goes out of its way to make sure
>that no one can just grab the mailing address of all of the active chapters
>to make sure they aren't targetted for mailing, under similar reasoning the
>Extension Status Report has a limited audience. However, This information I
>could see on the national site in a passworded area. There are some Social
>Greek Letter Organizations that do that.
I agree on this point.
Michael Brown
APO LM & TB
