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Re: [APO-L] Toast Song Issues

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael Ryan Gallagher)
Sun Jan 19 11:00:13 2003

Date:         Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:33:36 -0500
Reply-To: Michael Ryan Gallagher <famtree@UDel.Edu>
From: Michael Ryan Gallagher <famtree@UDel.Edu>
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU

A toast can occur without alcohol (although not as classy unless with
sparkling cider)- we must consider legalities, national policy, and
responsibility here.  Would a frivoulous motion really be passed to be real
policy?

Michael Gallagher
Zeta Sigma
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rachel" <iceangel99@yahoo.com>
To: <APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: [APO-L] Toast Song Issues


> This is kind of funny considering that at convention,
> i was going to frivoulously motion to either change
> the name of the toast song since a) it has nothing to
> do with the bread form of toast and b) we do not
> currently perform a toast...therefore the name either
> needs to be changed or a toast as with an alcoholic
> beverage should be incorporated to the toast song
> (hmm...singing of the toast song at Jackson square,
> midnight, new years eve comes to mind here....lol) and
> keep in mind that not every chapter does the toast
> song exactly the same...mine, for example, does the
> whole song with arms crossed and does not start with
> arms behind each others backs and has another verse
> that not every chapter does (this is also common).
> Some also have different traditions for the very end
> of the song.   Even though it's essentially the same
> song, I think it keeps chapters unique. ...maybe
> because we're too uncoordinated to do it the other
> way...
> :) have a great weekend!
> In brotha-hood
> Rachel Kuhn
> zeta delta
>
>
> --- Buddha Buck <bmbuck@14850.com> wrote:
> > Philip Harvey wrote:
> > > hrm.. what would we do for the third verse?  For
> > the he first verse,
> > > we've got our arms on each others shoulders like a
> > big group hug, then
> > > it's right over left, hand in hand...  what do we
> > do for the 3rd verse
> > > though?  just hand in hand, no right over left,
> > and do a wave sort of
> > > thing, starting with the president?  hrm, maybe
> > not... we can't even
> > > sway in time with eachother...
> >
> > Well....
> >
> > I sort of think we're doing the wrong thing for the
> > first verse...  This
> > is a Toast song, and it begins as a Toast: "Here's
> > to Alpha Phi Omega",
> > yet we do nothing resembling toasting during it.
> >
> > I grant you that standing, left hands at our sides,
> > right hands extended
> > before us at eye level, holding an imaginary glass
> > would probably
> > present the wrong image (visualize it, folks).  But
> > I could see, at the
> > beginning (or end) of a banquet, everyone singing
> > the first verse
> > together, glasses raised in a toast.
> >
> > The second verse begins with "Brothers Clasp the
> > hands of Brothers" and
> > that's what we do.  No problem there.
> >
> > What action is suggested by the third verse
> > presented below?  Hmmm....
> > Singing... but we are already doing that -- and the
> > second verse also
> > has the subtle voice-raising in the second half.
> > Praising?  Growing?
> > Joining?  How do you symbolically do these things?
> >
> > Perhaps...
> >
> >    Link our arms both men and women, Brothers all
> > are we.
> >      Hears as one we praise together, Our diversity.
> >    Ever growing, ever learning, so that we may be
> >      Joined in Alpha Phi Omega For Eternity
> >
> > That gives us a direct action to follow, stresses
> > the diversity and
> > bi-gendered nature of the Fraternity.  I'm not sure
> > I like it though.
> > There's something about the 2nd line that doesn't
> > work for me.
>
>
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