[23021] in APO-L
Re: [APO-L] On AAMD's, Pledge Fees and Other Items
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Laura Doss)
Thu Oct 24 11:04:31 2002
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 08:04:25 -0700
Reply-To: Laura Doss <mldoss@YAHOO.COM>
From: Laura Doss <mldoss@YAHOO.COM>
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
In-Reply-To: <1035438555.3db789db43a99@mgtmail.com>
The national honor society that I belong to, Mortar
Board, Inc. (Pi Sigma Alpha for those of you who've
gotta have the letters!), charges incoming initiates
$55. If you're a continuing member (i.e. get inducted
your 4th year of college but don't plan on graduating
until the end of your 5th year), subsequent years are
$25. There are no national alumni fees that I am
aware of.
I'm not ready to hop off the fence yet in regards to
raising pledge/initiation fees and eliminating AAMD.
Throwing an idea into the mix which would probably tip
me in favor of the increased pleding/initiation fees
would be an extension of when the fee had to be turned
in by. In other words, perhaps raising the deadline
to have initate fees turned in from 10 days to maybe
20. Looking at this and doing some math, here's what
I come up with. Assuming a weekly payment plan spread
out over the pledging period with equal payments
totaling $100 proposed national fee:
Pledge Period of 6 weeks- approx. $17 per week
Pledge Period of 8 weeks- $12.50 per week
Pledge period of 10 weeks- $10 per week
These figures assume that all fees must be paid prior
to initiation. I'm sure that the reason National
Office gives 10 days is that they realize the fact
that not everyone is prompt in paying, checks take
time to cut, etc. However, adding an extra 10 days
could lessen payments on initiates considerably
(assuming that chapters would allow this), thus
cancelling out the majority of cost concerns. The
only thing I'm not sure of is whether or not the 10
day deadline is something that has to be changed at
Convention or can be done administratively at National
Office.
LFS,
Laura Doss
AAH/48/VI--MVP, Treasurer
--- Mariza Shavelle <shavelle@MISTY.COM> wrote:
> Just to share a few thoughts and other info:
>
> 1) Circle K in Pennsylvania currently charges
> approximately $27 per member per
> year.This is broken down as $18 International
> Dues and $9 PA District
> Dues. Districts can charge up to (I believe) $10.
> Clubs charge anywhere from
> $0 to $25 club dues although most that do charge
> club dues only do a nominal
> amount like $5.
> In additional, most Circle K clubs receive an
> annual budget from their
> schools curtesy of Student Activities Fees which,
> in most cases, APO
> chapters are not allowed to apply for or get.
> International membership
> for Circle K is around 12,500 students.
>
> What most people don't realize, however, is that
> Circle K is not self
> sufficient from membership fees alone. The Circle
> K International Office
> runs with support and financial subsidies from
> Kiwanis International and
> Kiwanis support at the District (Regional) level.
> I hesitate to put out the
> figure that dues would have to be without those
> additional funding sources
> but it would probably be in the $100 range. (I
> think the last figure I heard
> was $87 per member).
>
> 2) Gamma Sigma Sigma
> Ok, it's been awhile ...annual dues for members
> is currently
> at $50 per year which consists of $40 dues and
> $10 travel pool
> (travel pool is given back as a form of
> incentives to attend coventions
> and conferncess). Pledging fees are $20 per
> pledge plus $40 annual dues
> plus $10 travel pool or $70 for the year of
> pledging plus any chapter
> dues.
>
>
> GSS Alumni dues are $20 per year plus any local
> alumni chapter dues.
> or simply $20 per year if you're an
> alumni-at-large. I paid $40 to
> be a member of an alumni chapter this year which
> included all my fees
> to everyone.
>
> 3) Most honorary and professional societies charge
> the majority of their
> fees upfront rather than charging a per year
> assessment. Some that I know
> about are:
> Phi Eta Sigma freshman honor society one
> time national fee $45
> most chapters only charge chapter dues the
> year of initiation
> at Drexel, it was $60 one time fee to join
> and be a member for 4-5
> years.
>
> Golden Key National Honor Society one
> time national fee approx $75
>
> Phi Sigma Pi
> joining fee of $135
> chapter dues aftewards of $60-$100 per
> year
>
> For Kiwanis, I pay around $100 per year to belong as
> well as a bunch of other
> costs relating to convention attendance and support
> of programs. I probably
> spent around $1500 per year as a Kiwanis member and
> that is actually being
> conservative.
>
> To me, a one time fee of $100 sounds like a real
> bargain.
> Will this work in pratice though and at the
> collegiate level?
>
> I think it really comes done to what is happening at
> the campus level. Most
> freshman do not pay to belong to the honoraries and
> professional societies..not
> really. Normal operational procedure is for a nice
> letter to go to the parents
> congratulating them on their son or daughters
> accomplishments and said parents
> then sent back the membership check. I would think
> it would be hard to market
> and collect $100 from students to join if no other
> campus groups charge that
> kind of money to join....However, if every other
> group was charging that or
> more, APO would seem like a bargain.
>
> I'm not sure that APO is at the point where asking
> for and collecting $100
> up front will work. I think for alumni, this is more
> of a realistic expectation
> that pledges that haven't yet been exposed to the
> organization.
>
> in LFS,
> Mariza
> shavelle@misty.com
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