[22746] in APO-L
Re: [APO-L] Extension efforts
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (michael shulman)
Mon Jul 8 20:01:07 2002
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 20:00:59 -0400
Reply-To: michael shulman <mikeinapo@hotmail.com>
From: michael shulman <mikeinapo@hotmail.com>
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
A note on going to high schools:
When seniors are graduating they are assalted with 100,000 "important" facts
about life The possibility that they would remember Alpha Phi Omega after
the summer is slim.
What about emailing, etc. Or just going to the club night on their campus?
Well placed flyers are also useful.
I agree with Grossi that we dont have the manpower for alumni and staff to
start rushing on their own.
The best tool would probably be local chapters, if any exist.
Michael Shulman
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Grossi" <jgrossi@ATTBI.COM>
To: <APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU>
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [APO-L] Extension efforts
> > On paper, this seems like a good idea; however, there are many
> > considerations.
> >
> > 1) The college campus has to be willing to INVITE us to hold such an
event
> > on the campus. Without the university's support, this can NOT take
place.
>
> Cold calling is a possibility, but it opens up a whole world of
> OTHER issues when Nationals goes in and asks a school about starting
> something. Realistically this is also little different than going and
> talking to a feeder organization (such as Scouts Canada)
>
> >
> > 2) Some universities could use this activity to view the Chapter as
being
> > "run" by the alumni, when our By-Laws indicate that it is student-run.
This
> > is a particular problem on certain Southern campuses that are seeking to
be
> > re-chartered. The university administrations and the National
Fraternity
> > both fear that the Chapter would be run solely by the alumni in that
area,
> > and, in some cases, by the same Brothers who were active when the
Charter
> > was removed who are now alumni.
> >
>
> You leave off the possibility of professional *paid* staff
> doing this.
>
> > 3) It would be better to have the Section and Region staffs to come up
with
> > a way to inform graduating seniors from high school that we exist and
how to
> > get a Chapter going if one does not exist on his/her perspective campus.
> > Through this, new Chapters can grow and be assisted by neighboring
Chapters
> > and Alumni associations, without being run by them.
>
> Having been a Section Chair, and knowing all that's involved
> in running a section *well*, as well as the costs associated
> with the job, is this really something that can and should be
> loaded on the elected staff's backs? The job you signed up for
> is to serve your chapters not to talk to each of the 1500 High
> Schools in your section. (even 10 minutes a school, and 70
> cents a letter is a prohibitive cost which retracts from your
> main goal. This is assuming you get *zero* response) If you
> are going to go out prospective for extension this way, you need
> to have a very clear message and be ready and willing to execute.
>
> Realistically without APO coming into a lot of money to
> support some of these ideas, extension is going to hobble
> on like it is right now. Figure 5-7 full time staff and a paid
> travel budget for 3-5 years as well as all the political
> ducks lining up for those staff to reach their full
> effectiveness. You're looking at 10-12 million dollars.
>
> We don't have the resouces and man power to do more than
> organic growth of following up the folks that come to us.
>
> some more thoughts for consideration...
>
> -John
>
> >
> > If anyone wishes to discuss my points with me, please contact me
offlist;
> > also realize that these thoughts do no reflect the opinions of Region IV
or
> > Section 74.
> >
> > Matt Cross
> > Section 74 Chair -- Alpha Phi Omega
> > (888) 270-0074
> > mailto:section.74.chair@apo.org
> > http://www.section74.org
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alpha Phi Omega Discussion List [mailto:APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU]
On
> > Behalf Of Brown Michael-EMB021
> > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 3:52 PM
> > To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
> > Subject: [APO-L] Extension efforts
> >
> >
> > >From: Teri Sheets <terisheets@ATTBI.COM>
> > >
> > >It would help, however, if 1) we had more alumni support in the area,
> > >and
> > >2) we had a more proactive extension process. We just wait for
students to
> > >send us a letter asking for information about APO...how the heck are
they
> > >even know that something like APO even exists if we don't somehow go
out
> > >there and tell them.
> > >
> > >So, we can talk all we want about why we don't have chapters in Utah.
> > >Until we get the resources and support needed to make it happen, then
> > >it will all be a bunch of talk.
> > >
> > >In LFS,
> > >Teri Sheets
> > >Former Region X Director
> >
> > I have to agree with what you say about extension efforts. Since APO
does
> > NO advertisement, how can college students know about us before they go
to
> > school? Most students that might have heard of us are former scouts
that
> > might have seen us listed in a scout manual or see an Info Booth at a
> > scouting event.
> >
> > What we need are teams of Alumni who can host Info Night events at
college
> > campuses, with the intention of finding interested students to establish
an
> > IG and then become a PG. This is something that local APO Alumni groups
> > should look at doing as a service to the fraternity.
> >
> > Michael Brown
> > APO LM & TB
>
