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Re: [APO-L] History of World Scouting (was Re: Legislation or
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Randy Finder)
Tue Jul 25 11:51:12 2000
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:46:26 -0400
Reply-To: Randy Finder <naraht@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU>
From: Randy Finder <naraht@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU>
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Brown Michael-EMB021 wrote:
> >From: Kevin Yue <kyue@GLUE.UMD.EDU>
> >
> >> I would be very much in favour of such an amendment. Scouting is a
> >> worldwide co-ed movement. In some countries it is segregated by
> >> gender. We only have half of Scouting represented.
> >
> >Do you realize that the BSA was founded on the basis of developing young
> >MEN? The point I'm trying to make with that statement is that the BSA
> >may be the first its kind in the world with Scouting, but when other
> >countries decided to develop their own scouting programs, they did it with
> >the vision of developing young people. The Boy Scouts of America are, and
> >it is in their policies, there to develop young MEN, which is the reason
> >why they are all-male (well, the direct Scouting line, not exploring or
> >venturing). This is one of the reasons the GSUSA came into existence. If
> >the BSA were just Scouts of America, then the GSUSA would probably not
> >exist.
>
>
> The phenomenon of co-ed scouting is really very recent. Only in the last
> couple of decades have SOME Boy Scout associations in SOME countries (about
> third to two thirds) gone co-ed. In most cases that countries Girl
> Guide/Girl Scout organization STILL exists. Only in 1-2 cases did the Boy
> Scout & Girl Guide/Girl Scout organizations merge (Israel is only example I
> know of). Campfire Girls became Campfire Boys & Girls only in the last
> couple of decades. Exploring went co-ed in 1971.
>
> Thus, despite what some think, the BSA is not some lone hold out of
> male-only scouting.
Yes, but you have realize there is a definately a geographic/cultural
aspect to which countries have had thier scouting programs go co-ed. The
countries where scouting have gone co-ed are concentrated in the
"Developed" world and the countries that have stayed single gender are
largely in the "Developing" world.
If you would drink the water while you are visiting the country, Girls are
probably part of the WOSM scouting program. :)
>
> Also, will most probably know our own organization was male-only until 1976.
> We have a sorority counterpart called Omega Phi Alpha that still has a few
> chapters out there.
Whether OPhiA or Gamma Sigma Sigma is our counterpart is a fun argument,
If you've got a few days to spare we can discuss it sometime. :)
Omega PHi Alpha has more chapters currently than it has ever had in the
past, but that's only about 15. There are about 15 active chapters of 25
Charters.
Gamma Sigma Sigma OTOH has many more chapters (about 40) but it has over
200 Charters and as such is much weaker compared to its height.
Check out www.omegaphialpha.org and www.gammasigonline.org
YiLFS
Randy Finder
>
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