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Re: [APO-L] BSA & APO

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Sarah Pauline Finch)
Mon Jul 24 13:32:48 2000

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">Also, Scouting for All also makes an issue of the BSA
barring females from the Cub Scout and Boy Scout
programs (the Venturing program is co-ed). What
> they fail to realize is that the GSUSA is the
scouting program for girls, and that both the BSA &
GSUSA have agreed that the BSA will NOT open up Cub
> Scouts and Boy Scouts to girls.  The GSUSA was not to
happy when the BSA opened up Exploring to girls in the
70s, nor with Venturing being co-ed, as a result their
own older girl programs are very weak.  If Scouting for
All is going to attack the BSA for not accepting girls,
they should also attack the GSUSA for not accepting
boys, and for holding the BSA to barring girls."

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I might be wrong (since I am still young and so I
missed alot of the old issues that are circulating) but
I don't recall anything being brought up about boys and
Girl Scouting.  When I was younger we did have a little
boy who was what we called a "Tag-a-long" which were
active preschoolers or siblings who came to all our
events.

We also have "Men in Green" I will look to see if that
is open to children or just adults but it is there and
MiG is recognised by GSUSA.  In fact my father has been
a Girl Scout as long as I have.  (Going on 14 years)

There are many men with roles in Girl Scouting, they
are just not prominent figures.  It might be more true
for just my area but I know leaders of different level
troops that are male and although I have heard debates
as to whether or not it is right, the fact remains that
they are still there.

And as far as older girl programs being weak, my senior
girl scout troop was 22 strong at its peak and 17 at
its low point, and that was only one or 3 senior troops
in the area, also with high numbers. And this was as of
1999.  Maybe co-ed programs were a problem in the 70s,
but I don't think that it as bad now.  And if when
troops have low membership it isnt neccessarily from co-
ed programs, in fact I wasn't even aware those programs
were co-ed, the only people i ever knew to participate
were boys.

As I said once already, "I think that....that the if
organizations are not equal (for better or worse) [then]
in many ways ...trying to equate them as such isn't
right."

As always, I want to reiterate that the above tatements
are my opinions, and feel free to rebut.

In LF&S,
Sarah-Pauline
Alpha Beta Psi


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