[20683] in APO-L
Re: My 2 Cents (and change) on the new web page
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Grossi)
Tue Jul 13 15:11:30 1999
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 18:57:43 +0100
Reply-To: John Grossi <jgrossi@BBNPLANET.COM>
From: John Grossi <jgrossi@BBNPLANET.COM>
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.05.9907131148460.149-100000@cimi.cs.colorado.edu>
> On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Mark Stratton wrote:
>
> [with much snippage...]
> > However, web pages also have to be USEFUL.
>
> > Please, and I am addressing this to WHOMEVER is responsible, either bring
> back the Web HQ until the new page is completely done, or get all the
> information (how about a complete calendar of events and a submission
> tool, for example) up ASAP. I know these things take time, but more
> thought should have been given.
And the new page has in-correct information on it... I ceased being a
Section Chair in April (through retirement) and suddenly with the new
page... I'm back...
From the timing of the page going up it seems like there was a deadline
of this past board meeting for the page to be up... and well someone put
the new page up, even if inaccurate to meet a "deadline"
> > As for speed, I have a dedicated T1 at work and a v90 modem at home,
> and speed isn't that bad - I get the whole page in about, oh 15-20
> seconds. However, not everyone has the same equipment I do
> In APO's case, though, our audience is mostly college students who
> have access to fast connections, either in on-campus labs or through
> ethernet in their dorm rooms. So page weight isn't as big of a concern
> for us as it would be for other websites.
I sit behind an OC-12 connection here at work (building to building) and
an OC-192 connection to the net at large, with OC-3 to my desk top,
(I work at one of the core gateways (GTE Internetworking))
and it's SLOW, painfully slow... so the bottle neck is not on the
this end... trust me I know... my pager would be going off if it was
and my e-box would be filling with trouble tickets.
There are also issues with the java calls on the second paging crashing
the web broswer on certain platforms with certain versions of JDK...
someone needs to do some QA on the page...
also what's with this first page? 800x600? like come on...
> Are we paying for this page or did WOW donate their services?
> With the talent pool available to APO, there's *no* reason for
> us to pay for page design.
I should hope in this organization that we would use volunteer
service for things like this? Fuzz and his staff of volunteers
were doing a great job, I'm sad to see them replaced...
also I'm going to miss the announcements (on the web and on -L)
and change logs Fuzz put up... I know I, and I bet a lot of
others... just went and looked at that change log (daily).
as to WOW! Marketing... it looks like they are a Colorado Springs
based company... so my guess is John Wetherington is the best one
to ask about who they are... my question is was there a bid process
involved? how much are we paying? why are we paying (when we had a
well done web page for free)
but progress moves on...
-John Grossi
Advisor Theta Zeta Chapter - University of New Hampshire
Region I Staff
