[19315] in APO-L
Re: ?s about Alcohol relating to an RMP
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen D. Gravrock)
Thu Oct 8 04:15:46 1998
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 01:17:07 +0000
Reply-To: gravrock@gocougs.wsu.edu
From: "Stephen D. Gravrock" <gravrock@GOCOUGS.WSU.EDU>
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
In-Reply-To: <ee855534.36167417@aol.com>
<<snip scenario pertaining to alcohol>>
Alpha Xi's chapter policies on alcohol boil down to, there will be no
drinking at anything that could be reasonably considered a chapter
function.
> * What would be considered a chapter event for those chapter that do not
> approve their events? Gavel to gavel? Until the end of the Toast Song? Any
> definitions of chapter event would help.
At Washington State University, anything involving (I think) 3 or
more members in a group consisting of only/mainly members can be
considered a chapter function. The exact number might be a little
higher, but it is single-digit. Because of this, the risk management
policies of most organizations here are a good deal stricter than you
might see elsewhere.
The definition of hazing here is also very broad, and that makes a
difference.
> * What would be considered a part of the pledge education program? Is it
> anything that pledges are required to attend or could it be interpreted as any
> activity that is a chapter event can be a part of the education process?
As far as alcohol is concerned, I would go so far as to say that
anything involving both pledges and actives could be construed as
part of the pledge education program. The exception would be, for
instance, if an active and a pledge were both at a non-APO related
party where alcohol was served.
As pledgemaster, I can't drink with a pledge under any circumstances.
> * If events that are not required are not considered apart of the pledge
> education program, can there be chapter events where alcohol is served by a
> third party? If so, can pledges drink if they are over 21?
I would say probably not. OTOH if your policies do not prohibit
alcohol at chapter events, it shouldn't be a problem under those
circumstances.
> * Can there be a pledge event (setup by the pledges) at a dance club where
> alcohol is served by a third party vendor?
I think this would come down to liability issues. If you can do it
without incurring any legal risks, I don't see why not.
Of course, pledges would not be allowed to drink. Such an event would
almost certainly be considered part of the pledging program
.
> * What are your policies on the announcement of private parties during
> meetings that will involve alcohol and most likely underage drinking? Is
> there anything about announcing one after the singing of the Toast Song?
That issue hasn't come up in our chapter. I think it would depend
partly on your definition of a chapter event. It seems to me that
waiting until after the meeting is adjourned would be wise.
My chapter is currently in the process of re-writing our bylaws. Risk
management will probably come next. I'd like to hear what others are
doing.
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Stephen D. Gravrock VP Membership, APO-AXi
105 Waller Hall e-mail: gravrock@gocougs.wsu.edu
Pullman, WA 99163 tel: (509) 333-3988
