[1919] in linux-security and linux-alert archive
[linux-security] Re: WARNING: Break-in attempts
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rogier Wolff)
Sun Jun 21 04:04:28 1998
To: shedges@shaw.wave.ca (Shaun Hedges)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 08:31:23 +0200 (MET DST)
Cc: linux-security@redhat.com
In-Reply-To: <35895EB3.D4E3866D@shaw.wave.ca> from "Shaun Hedges" at Jun 18, 98 12:38:44 pm
From: R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl (Rogier Wolff)
Resent-From: linux-security@redhat.com
Resent-Reply-To: linux-security@redhat.com
Shaun Hedges wrote:
>
> It is nice being paranoid, but what that person did is *not* illegal and would
> not hold and water in a court of law.
>
> He caused no loss of money, no denial of service, nothing.
He modified the systems he attacked without consent or approval of the
owner.
The modification consists of getting stuff into the log files.
Moreover the attacks on the web server clearly show his intent of
breaking into the machine, not just "what's this machine?" prodding.
As far as I'm told, this would be enough to get a conviction in the
state of Oregon, and possibly many more.
I agree with you that this SHOULD NOT be punishable. Those laws are so
"strict" that everybody who uses a computer breaks them (without
knowing that they are breaking the law), and if someone gets it in
their stubborn head that you are a bad guy, they can always prove
you're guilty because everybody is breaking the law on a dayly basis.
It happened to Randal Schwartz, read about it at
http://www.lightlink.com/spacenka/fors/
Americans, it could happen to you next time, do something about it!
Roger.
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