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Re: New to U2W/LVD and termination

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ricky Beam)
Fri Feb 25 13:52:25 2000

Date:   Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:44:09 -0500 (EST)
From: Ricky Beam <jfbeam@bluetopia.net>
To: Brendan Miller <brmiller@netgate.net>
Cc: linux-scsi@vger.rutgers.edu
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, Brendan Miller wrote:
>...  Now most U2W drives can run in
>"UW, single-ended" compatibility mode, right?  This one seems to,

s/most/all/ or so requires T10.  (I've never read anything in the specs
to suggest otherwise.  But the specs are not yet in stone.  Altho', as I
understand, they have been sent to the stone cutter.)

>as per both the IBM docs (it's a Ultrastar 18ES, DNES-309170), but

A truely excellent drive -- and amazingly cheap.

>the new thing I learned was that these drives don't retain the
>ability to terminate the bus themselves.  Instead, you must provide
>internal termination on the last plug of the ribbon cable--something
>I've never done before.

Correct.  LVD capable drives to do not have on-board termination logic.
They can provide power to the bus to run a terminator, but they do not
have the resistors them selves.  (Termination has become much more involved
in modern times.)

>I'm only running the drive in single-ended mode, so a single-ended,
>active terminator would work, right?  If I get an LVD controller 
>someday, would I use one of the LVD terminators?  Is there a terminator
>I can buy today that will work in both single-ended and LVD 
>applications?

Yes.  Yes.  and Yes.  The LVD multi-mode active terminator is your best
answer -- of course, they are also in the 100$US range.  If you can get
one with the controller, it makes the 150$US much better spent.

--Ricky



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