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Re: Back-to-back SCSI PCs?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gerard Roudier)
Fri Jan 1 13:06:46 1999

Date: 	Fri, 1 Jan 1999 18:09:27 +0100 (MET)
From: Gerard Roudier <groudier@club-internet.fr>
To: Marc SCHAEFER <schaefer@alphanet.ch>
cc: linux-scsi@vger.rutgers.edu
In-Reply-To: <76i10g$a4$1@vulcan.alphanet.ch>


On 1 Jan 1999, Marc SCHAEFER wrote:

> Matthew Jacob <mjacob@feral.com> wrote:
> >  Should-
> > 	Disable SCSI resets if you can or expect some 'startup heartburn'
> > 	whenever either side reboots.
> 
> This is not sufficient. This means that if the SCSI bus gets stuck,
> you won't be able to unstuck it. Probability of it is very low,
> however. But proper implementations means
> 
>    when bus locked -> SCSI RESET
>    when SCSI reset (from us or other side) -> restart commands
> 
> This is detail, however you can't assume that there won't be any
> RESET ... especially since most Linux drivers do SCSI reset for
> peanuts, such as parity errors.

A peanut can sometimes hide a coconut. :)

A SCSI parity error is not peanuts. It just means that a signal level 
has been wrongly transmitted and if this happens to handshaking signals  
then the BUS may get locked or overflow may happen. On the other hand 
a double SCSI parity error may lead to undetected errors.
On a reliable SCSI BUS, the probability of a SCSI parity error is so low 
that resetting the BUS on such an error is not a problem.
Anyway, not resetting means that the recovery procedure worked gracefully 
and, to be frank, I haven't been ever able to recover a SCSI parity error 
without locking the BUS using the ncr53c8xx driver.

BTW, if you want to really support multi-initiator, then you will also
want to implement support for the SCSI reservation protocol and be
carefull about sense data returned by devices, notably when a device is
resetted by another initiator. 

You may also want to consider that it may happen that many SCSI devices
will not behave correctly in multi-initiator environment for the simple
reason that they are rarely used this way. 

Regards,
   Gerard.


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