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Re: news on dual buslogics with MD

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Douglas Warren)
Tue Dec 3 11:02:13 1996

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From: dwarren@alpha.netusa.net (Douglas Warren)
Date: 	3 Dec 1996 14:39:01 GMT


: I have been asked to set up the be-all end-all news server.  A rather
: difficult request, but the SCSI subsystem I was thinking of putting in
: involved a veryfast 1GB Seagate root/swap disk and 3x 4GB Barracuda news
: disks, MDed together on two BusLogic 958 controllers, stuffed into a dual
: P200 box.

I don't say that we have the be-all end-all news server, but I rather like
the one that we did setup (When it works properly)  One comment I do
have to make though is if you can afford it, add 1 or 2 more 2 gig
drives to the mixture as above, 1 For history/active, 1 for over.view
If nothing else you may find that having overview, and history on a 1
gb root is a bit of a bad thing.  But this is a News issue, not a SCSI
issue =)

: I would appreciate any feedback anyone, especially Leonard, can provide
: about the possible caveats:
: - MD has in the past been unstable with SMP; is anyone running SMP MD
:   news servers?
I still wonder is MD completely stable, every 14 or so days I get a
kernel panic whichI am not convinced is anything other then MD 
going DOH!

: - Are 958 controllers bus-mastering?  Will they play well together in the
:   same machine?
Deffinitly, we run two in our news server

: - Will MD work across two controllers / a FlashPoint DW?
It'll work across 2 controllers, but I've never used a FlashPoint
so can't comment on that...

: And now some generic SCSI questions... 
: If one is going to put two or more reasonably fast 4GB drives on one
: chain, is F/W SCSI II enough to keep them both hauling data at peak
: efficiency, or is Ultra Wide SCSI necessary?
F/W SCSI II should handle the load.  The important issue though with
news is the number of drives that is in the spool

: Pursuing this further, would an appropriate architecture be one or two
: controllers using Ultra Wide disks, or say three/four controllers using
: Fast SCSI II disks, with the cheaper disks offset by the cost of more
: controllers and more complex cabling? 
Hmmm....  That's a good issue, our current hardware is a mix of the
two.  But with large numberof slower drives you divide up the time
across the RAID0...  I'd say it's a tossup and depends on much much
more specifics then you've gotten into... (IE: Price, preformance
history of the drives)

: Also, in the experience of more-experienced news admins than any of us,
: are multiple smaller drives better, WRT seek time, or should one purchase
: fewer larger drives?  As news is far from mission-critical, excessive
: reliability is not a particular concern.
Fewer larger drives are deffinitly not the best option the more drives
you have the faster the operation can complete, however there is the
speed/cost effective issue.  With a news server though, the amount
of memory in the system is JUST as important or more so then the 
hard drives...  Ask the ppl down at CAIS I believe they have 3 news
servers each running 384 Megs (Not linux so not relevant to this
discussion)  A good news server is possible to do under Linux, heck
feeder.erols.com is a Linux box and I believe is ranked #5 on the
Freenix top 1000 sites. (Erols cheats slightly but that's besides
the point)

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