[4598] in linux-net channel archive
Re: A SERIOUS security problem!!!!
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brian A. Lantz)
Mon Sep 30 16:41:44 1996
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 12:30:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Brian A. Lantz" <brian@lantz.com>
To: "Peter T. Breuer" <ptb@dit.upm.es>
cc: linux-net@vger.rutgers.edu
In-Reply-To: <199609301609.RAA22982@yeti.dit.upm.es>
On Mon, 30 Sep 1996, Peter T. Breuer wrote:
An example of over-inflated self-ego...
> > I have received about 40 personal email messages about this since I send
> > the message to the list. ...
> >
> > So EXCUSE ME for trying to help other! I won't make THAT mistake again!!
>
> Don't bother trying to justify yourself - your reasoning is faulty.
> Shouting "wolf" when there is no wolf deserves condemnation. The fact
> that lots of people don't know about a security hole that was blocked
> a long while ago doesn't bolster any part of your argument.
It *ISN'T* shouting 'wolf' when people's systems are being violated!
What planet are you from, or do you ENCOURAGE (as your email suggests)
leaving people's systems open to attack!
It *ISN'T* crying 'wolf' when a REAL problem exists, that has attacked
the security of REAL machines, from REAL people I kn. And since my
posting, several have asked fror more info, and have discovered that
their systems were vunerable, too.
If a REAL problem exists, there are two avenues to take; alert others, or
leaver them in ignorance, raising yourself to a higher level in your
unshared knowledge. The first path asists others, the second leads to
attitudes like yours...
> I.e. you should just apologise and shut up. Next time, check before
> shouting :-). Did you actually _check_ to see if this security hole
> existed? I think not.
Oh, I apoligized, all right, and I'll do it again....
I apoligize for being considerate, and after have several friends systems
violated, wishing to help others prevent the problem.
I *DO* apoligize. Now, how about an apolizy from YOU for being
narrow-minded, intolerant, rude, and selfish? Your turn!
My motivation was to help others, what was yours?
> Peter T. Breuer
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