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In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960618200221.326A-100000@devel.conexio.co.za> Reply-To: dledford@dialnet.net Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:31:55 CDT From: Doug Ledford <dledford@dialnet.net> To: Mike Kilburn <mike@lserv.conexio.co.za> Cc: Dennis <dennis@etinc.com>, linux-net@vger.rutgers.edu On 18-Jun-96 Mike Kilburn wrote: >> > > >But what I am saying is the opposite. The low level board driver can >be binary only since that is an extension of the firmware (or lack of) >for the card. While the "value-added" kernel enhancements should require >source. I know this will never happen with ET. But *new* companies can >plan from the start to make a profit and be free. I guess this is where we differ. The way I see it is this. ET has written what you call a kernel extension. You feel that the source for kernel extensions should be distributed. I believe you mentioned doing this to avoid raping the linux kernel (since it is free) and to contribute something back to the community that contributed Linux. The ET protected info is considered to be a kernel extension because it loads into the kernel module space and interacts at the hardware control level as a part of the kernel. Here's what I know about these things, and how I feel about them from my own experience. You can extrapolate these things back to ET, Inc. as you see fit. Unlike the vast majority of people working with linux and writing code for linux, I don't have any other job besides my linux work. If I write some usefull code that is not truely unique and valuable, then I give it back to the community. On the other hand, if I set down and write something that is valuable, I have a responsibility to myself, my wife, my creditors, etc. to NOT give that piece of information away, but instead, use the sell of it to finance all of the other stuff I am doing as well. As such, the kernel extension you speak of is ET's "valuable" work. Furthermore it's not even Linux specific. I don't think I could tell someone they have to give their code away when I know what circumstances I work under. Those of us that work 60+ hours a week on the linux operating system and have no other income, have to get what we can where we can in order to survive, and maybe even, God forbid, make enough to take a break sometimes :) Also, I sent through a message to the list, but I think it got killed off before it got out :) I know that one of the things people have been talking about is the idea that ET should release the driver and make their money from the board. In that message I mentioned that I understood ET's position because the board market is very competitive and the deciding factor on my purchase of their board was their software. Take that away, and ET very well could have lost the sell. Apply this to the statement you make above about new companies planning from the start to make a profit and be free. I think you are right, as long as what makes this company better than the others, what gives this company the competitive edge, is NOT the software, but the hardware. If this isn't the case, then the company can't be free with its software and stay in business. ***************************************************************************** * Doug Ledford * Unix, Novell, Dos, Windows 3.x, * * dledford@dialnet.net 873-DIAL * WfW, Windows 95 & NT Technician * * PPP access $14.95/month ***************************************** * Springfield, MO and surrounding * Usenet news, e-mail and shell account.* * communities. Sign-up online at * Web page creation and hosting, other * * 873-9000 V.34 * services available, call for info. * *****************************************************************************
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