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Re: Fixing the Netra i Internet Server from Sun

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (James G. Stallings II -- NetAdmin)
Tue Apr 16 05:47:41 1996

Date: 	Mon, 15 Apr 1996 21:37:45 +0600 (GMT+0600)
From: "James G. Stallings II -- NetAdmin" <zap@kraken.port-aransas.k12.tx.us>
To: Neil Corlett <neil.corlett@jrc.it>
Cc: linux-net@vger.rutgers.edu
In-Reply-To: <3172AAA0.6632@aisws3.>



On Mon, 15 Apr 1996, Neil Corlett did thoughtfully inscribe:

> Personally, I would read the manual and see what Netra i s/w does. I suspect 
> it has expensive firewall facilities as well as the WWW server.

I know this to be the case, but the bastards supplied no manual, and all 
inquiries about such to SabreData have fallen on deaf ears. 

> You probably have a copy of Solaris 2 on the wee beastie. 

SunOs 4.1.1 (? I think)

> It's SVR4-ish and worth learning. If you want info on how to make it 
> tight-as-a-ducks-arse, look at the SunWorldOnLine page 
> http://www.sun.com/sunworldonline tutorial section this month. Actually, 
> I bet Netra makes setting up a WWW server real easy, although I have not 
> used it. The product brief is at
> http://www.sun.com/products-n-solutions/hw/servers/netrai/products.html

Thanks for the Links, I'll be looking at them over the next few days.
A lot of netra i adminning happens with CGI, but they hide the more 
esoteric details.

> I have been adminning Sun for years - so you don't need huge amounts of
> support from 3rd parties. Remember, you have a period of free warranty for
> hard and soft.

This unit comes to us through a VAR (SabreData) whom I wouldn't wish on 
anyone; I wish we had been dealing with Sun directly, I might have a 
better opinion of the netra i.

> I have used many UNIXes over the years, and whilst I have a lot of respect
> for Linux, I don't think it can soak up the load like Solaris 2.5, and 
> it probably does not scale so well. The SPARC port is probably ropey as hell, 
> and I really would not trust it. Where Solaris shines is in
> memory management. My experiences with Linux were that it had wobbly paging
> algorithms in 1.2.x. The advantage of Linux is that the kernel is small, so makes
> good use of available memory - till it runs out ;-). Where Solaris is painful
> is in the famed SVR4 SAF system. Try setting up a print server by hand...!!
                                 (I have under Linux ^^^  =)

I am fairly green on any type of Unix.  I've been hacking microcomputer
programming since about 1980, and as DOS came to the top of the heap I
started hearing about Unix.  By then I was beginning to write some C
programs, and Unix became something of a holy grail. By the time I found out
about Linux, the Internet was in full swing, and between the two I thought
I'd woke up one morning in heaven. 

Over the past two years I have, with quite a bit of (less than skilled) 
voulenteer help, set up and registered the Internet domain & servers from 
which I am reaching you now.  I find myself the NetAdmin of a 
rapidly growing site offering resources to the students and community in 
our area. All of this has been done with the Internet as the primary 
reference/research tool/resource, and with the slackware dist & much help 
from those associated with it.

I'm not overly biased towards Linux (technically speaking), but the 
support/developement network (in spite/because of its primarily 
voulunteer nature) is about the most effective I've ever seen in 16 
years of "the business". 

This area seems to me to be where I am most neglected with respect to the 
Sun Netra i, and I am very frustrated by it because I know that the 
machine itself is certainly the most awesome chunk of raw computing power 
I've ever had at my disposal, yet it is the #1 candidate for doorstop in 
my shop because I cant seem to find any Doc for the OS!

I truly appreciate the well-wishing and the references - keep watching 
the list, I'm sure you'll see more of me in the future!

If you'd like to take a look at some of what we've been up to, point a 
browser to http://www.port-aransas.k12.tx.us/www.html

Thanks Again and have a lot of fun on your side of the world too  :)

-James

<zap@kraken.port-aransas.k12.tx.us>


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