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Re: Very very bizzare networking problem

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher Blizzard)
Thu Mar 21 22:31:07 1996

To: ATPlack@scj.com
cc: alan@cymru.net, linux-net@vger.rutgers.edu, shaver@neon.ingenia.com
In-reply-to: Your message of "20 Mar 1996 09:31:42 CST."
             <"MSMAIL PC */PRMD=SCJMAIL/ADMD=MCI/C=US/"@MHS> 
Date: 	Thu, 21 Mar 1996 21:32:49 -0500
From: Christopher Blizzard <blizzard@odin.nyser.net>

In message <"MSMAIL PC */PRMD=SCJMAIL/ADMD=MCI/C=US/"@MHS>, ATPlack@scj.com wri
tes:
>
>Two identical IP addresses on the Physical segment that you are having 
>problems with.  If you can RARP the address with the Linux box off.  This 
>will give you the MAC of the board causing the problem.
>
>The connection was refused due to the other IP station replying to your 
>address.
>

	Well, looks like I get to bite the bullet on this one.  There was 
a Mac on my subnet with the same IP address.  This is why I missed it on 
the first try.  It's not on all the time. :)  I still wonder why tcpdump 
showed the same MAC address though.  Odd.  Thanks for all your time, 
guys.  Appreciated.

--Chris

ps.  Wow.  Do I feel like an idiot. :)

>The 1.3.57 code is helping because of the new way that the NET code is 
>written.
>
>Good luck.
> ----------
>From: blizzard@odin.nyser.net
>To: alan@cymru.net
>Cc: linux-net@vger.rutgers.edu
>Subject: Very very bizzare networking problems. :
>Date: Wednesday, March 20, 1996 12:29AM
>
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>
>     Howdy.  I have been experiencing a very odd network related
>problem and was hoping you might have the time to help.  I'm also going to
>cc: this to the linux-net mailing list in hopes that someone might have
>something to offer there as well. :) Here is the description:
>
>     I originally ran 1.2.13 when I first set up this Linux box.
>Unfortunately, I found that if I didn't generate network traffic every so
>often, say every 15 minutes or so, that I would no longer be able to
>access the machine remotely (An ARP problem of some kind?).  Any service
>that I tried to use be it web services, ftp, telnet, or sendmail would
>respond with "Connection refused."  If I went to the console and telnetted
>out I could then telnet back in without problems.  There were a couple of
>times when I pinged the machine from offsite and it would return two echos
>instead of one.
>
>     I figured that there might be something wrong with the kernel, so
>I thought I'd upgrade.  I tried running 1.3.57, a damn stable kernel, and
>see if it would help.  It did seem to.  I can now telnet in without
>problems as long as I am not on the same physical cable as the machine.
>If I am the same segment, I still receive the same messages as above.
>However, if I try again and again (especially from one of the suns on the
>segment) to connect to port 80 I will eventually get a connection.  At
>that point I can connect without problems from any machine on that
>segment to that service.
>
>     A co-worker of mine also runs Linux.  He does not seem to
>experience the problems that I do.  We run on the exact same hardware.
>The only difference that I can figure is that he has 10Base-T, and I use
>the AUI port with an adapter to Coax on my ether card.  We both have
>3Com 3C579's.  I've tried booting using his kernels off of disk and I
>have exactly the same problems.  Any thoughts on how I might diagnose
>this further?  Thanks.
>
> --Chris
>
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>Christopher Blizzard     | "The truth knocks on the door and you say
>blizzard@odin.nyser.net  | 'Go away.  I'm looking for the truth,' and
>                         | so it goes away."  --Robert Pirsig
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