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kcll in sipb

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (yandros@athena.mit.edu)
Sun May 16 17:40:48 1993

From: yandros@athena.mit.edu
Date: Sun, 16 May 93 17:40:27 -0400
To: web@athena.mit.edu
Cc: bug-sipb@athena.mit.edu, bug-outland@athena.mit.edu, sipb@athena.mit.edu
In-Reply-To: web@Athena.MIT.EDU's message of Sun, 16 May 93 13:25:48 EDT <9305161725.AA29617@m66-080-12>


From: web@Athena.MIT.EDU
  i've installed kcll in the sipb locker.  
  would it belong in the outland locker instead?  from the description in
  outland, I'd think it belongs in sipb, but calvin just installed clisp
  in outland, and this is similar (but smaller).

This brings up the whole issue of what should be in outland vs. what's
in the sipb locker, which I expect to generate some flamage during the
next meeting.  The issues as I see them are:

a) availability
   project.sipb is replicated and copied into the athena cell.
   project.outland is neither replicated nor copied into the athena
   cell.

b) reliability 
   Programs in the sipb locker should ideally be built, supported,
   tested, and stable for as many platforms as possible.  Bug reports
   should be dealt with as soon as possible.

   Programs in the outland locker are as likely to be symlinks to
   somewhere in afsland as not.  It contains mostly-stable alphas,
   betas, and even even officially nonexistant programs. (just ask RSA
   about how MIT has banned pgp. :-/ ) We don't guarantee that the
   programs will do what you want, do what they say we will, do what
   *we* say they will, or even exist at any given time.  If anyone has
   problems then we'd like to hear about 'em so we can fix them if we
   have the time and inclination.  It's not unreasonable for programs
   to `graduate' from outland to sipb (I expect xmosaic to do this,
   actually, given the number of people playing with it, but I'll
   probably wait until the next release, which should be Real Soon
   Now, and supposedly will even contain a (crude) editor!)

c) space
   Not that long ago, things that probably should have been put into
   the sipb locker couldn't be, because we didn't have the space in
   either the athena or sipb cell copies. this should be less of a
   problem now that we have a new (almost filled :-/) disk drive.
   thus, some things that might have been put into the sipb locker got
   shunted into outland.  Also, some things were moved before, into
   sipb-cruft.  We should figure out what should be where and put
   things in either sipb or outland.

I seem to remember thinking about one other issue, but I don't
remember it now; I'm sure someone will remind me soon enough. :-)




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