[197] in DCNS Development
NETWORKS/INTERACTIVELY Communicating with BITNET Hosts
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mhpower@Athena.MIT.EDU)
Fri Apr 17 18:12:00 1992
From: mhpower@Athena.MIT.EDU
To: olc-stock@Athena.MIT.EDU
Cc: developers@Athena.MIT.EDU, dcns@Athena.MIT.EDU, css@Athena.MIT.EDU,
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 18:09:43 EDT
Hi,
SIPB is no longer recommending that users get MITVMA accounts to
communicate interactively with BITNET users. Instead, BITNET can be
accessed directly from Athena workstations (or other systems with
Athena realm Zephyr clients).
So, the OLC stock answer "NETWORKS/INTERACTIVELY Communicating with
BITNET Hosts" should probably be updated. If you'd like, you can use
what's attached below to replace it.
Matt
It's possible to communicate interactively with users on BITNET hosts,
although this is supported by SIPB, not by Athena. You'll need to use
a program called bwrite, which is available in the sipb filesystem.
For example, to send a message to user CPW on the BITNET node
SOMEVAX, type
bwrite cpw@somevax
The bwrite program will prompt you for the text of your message, just
like the Zephyr program zwrite.
To use the bwrite program, or read its man page with the
man bwrite
command, you should first type
add sipb
Messages from BITNET will come to you with the sender's address in the
Zephyr signature. Also, they'll always be sent one line at a time, so
you may find it helpful to customize your Zephyr environment for
handling these messages.
For example, including the line
zwgc*reverseStack: True
in your ~/.Xresources file will stack the messages with the oldest on
top, so you can read them in the right order. For more information,
see the zwgc man page, or type
help @zephyr:main_menu
SIPB also provides a program called bfinger that lets you find out if
a BITNET user is currently logged in (bfinger has a man page, too).
For example, if you type
bfinger jruser@psuvm
you'll get a Zephyr message back (within a minute or so) that has
"System Daemon AT PSUVM" in the signature, and the body
CPQ: JRUSER not in CP directory
This means there isn't a JRUSER account. If there were, you might be
told what terminal JRUSER was logged in to, or that the person wasn't
logged in. The exact text is system dependent.
To write to you, BITNET users on IBM VM/CMS nodes should use the
syntax
TELL USER AT MITSIPB The text of the message
Users of VAX systems running VMS should instead type
SEND USER@MITSIPB The text of the message
where USER is your Athena username. To initiate a conversation, a
BITNET user should probably send you a brief "are you there" message.
If you're not logged in, whatever they sent will be lost, and
(unfortunately) they won't get an error message. Similarly, although
you'll sometimes get a zephyrgram indicating an error from bwrite
(e.g., "user not logged on"), it's also possible for your message, or
a reply, to just get lost along the way. One particular problem is
that some BITNET nodes don't recognize the name MITSIPB, and therefore
can't send any messages to us.
If you're affected by this problem, or have any other trouble with the
bwrite or bfinger programs, please send mail to
bug-sipb@athena.mit.edu
and include the name of the BITNET node you were trying to reach.
