[87306] in Cypherpunks
RE: engineering infowar disasters (was Re: How the FBI/NSA forces can further twist SAFE)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Phillip Hallam-Baker)
Sun Sep 28 02:02:39 1997
From: Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@ai.mit.edu>
To: "'Adam Back'" <aba@dcs.ex.ac.uk>, "holovacs@idt.net" <holovacs@idt.net>
Cc: "berezina@qed.net" <berezina@qed.net>, "brock@well.com"
<brock@well.com>,
"declan@well.com" <declan@well.com>,
"shamrock@cypherpunks.to" <shamrock@cypherpunks.to>,
"tien@well.com" <tien@well.com>,
"cypherpunks@cyberpass.net" <cypherpunks@cyberpass.net>
Cc: "fight-censorship@vorlon.mit.edu" <fight-censorship@vorlon.mit.edu>
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 21:54:54 -0400
Reply-To: Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@ai.mit.edu>
On Saturday, September 27, 1997 7:57 PM, Adam Back [SMTP:aba@dcs.ex.ac.uk] wrote:
> Reckon cypherpunks can knock up a few of those.
>
> So lets here some ideas for good photogenic infowar attacks which show
> that the lack of crypto is dangerous.
I suggest unless people want to hand the FBI an excuse
to harass everyone that they don't enter into this discussion.
There are plenty of conspiracy laws on the book. Infrastructure
attacks are illegal and exactly the kind of thing that gets long
jail sentences.
More to the point it is completely counterproductive. Even now
there is probably some FBI junior waving Back's message in
the air as if he has won the pools, probable cause for wiretaps
I would say.
I suspect I'm not the only person on the list who is responsible
for a service that is a regular hacker target. If I catch someone I
really don't care what the motive for the attack was. I'm going to
look to make that person serve jail time.
Phill
