[83400] in Cypherpunks
Re: Keepers of the keys
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Carl Ellison)
Sat Jul 19 16:09:17 1997
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 15:28:32 -0400
To: Joe Shea <joeshea@netcom.com>
From: Carl Ellison <cme@cybercash.com>
Cc: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>, Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>,
cypherpunks@toad.com
In-Reply-To: <Pine.3.89.9707182132.A29551-0100000@netcom9>
Reply-To: Carl Ellison <cme@cybercash.com>
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At 09:15 PM 7/18/97 -0700, Joe Shea wrote:
>Judges -- people like the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals --
>would look rather askance at requests for someone's key when it was no
>more aggravating an issue than a piece of flame mail. On the other hand,
>if someone's going to blow up San Francisco this week, it sure would help
>to have a key to any encrypted communications he was generating.
The gov't doesn't give any KE agent, judge or otherwise, permission to see the
actual decrypted traffic to make sure it matches the excuse given on the
request for access. The gov't can always come back and say, "Well, he didn't
say anything useful so we didn't record anything -- thanks for the key anyway."
If the gov't had to get content itself from a judge -- or, better, from the
NYTimes, Wash Post, ACLU, etc. -- then maybe we'd be closer to a politically
workable answer. That is, it would be valueless as a covert intelligence tool.
- Carl
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