[82893] in Cypherpunks
Fw: Hack the Mars rover
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Phillip M. Hallam-Baker)
Mon Jul 7 23:21:02 1997
From: "Phillip M. Hallam-Baker" <hallam@ai.mit.edu>
To: "cypherpunks" <cypherpunks@toad.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 22:28:18 -0400
Reply-To: "Phillip M. Hallam-Baker" <hallam@ai.mit.edu>
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Probably a very bad plan unless you like prison food...
Like the downside if you get caught is likely to be non-trivial.
Imagine an outcry above the Mitinic level and bellow the McVeigh
level...
On the other hand I would not be too sure about the level of security
being exceptional. I know that the NSA was not involved in giving
security advice on Federal Web server setup until very recently (after
the CIA raid).
I suspect that the result of Lucky's mail is thart some poor guy is now
going to have to sit up nursing a comms link watching for attempts to
penetrate. Mentioning possible security holes in specific installations
in public is not really fair. I know of one well known security
consultant who claimed to have reported a security weakness at a
particular site. Caused a massive panic. When the alledged report could
not be found you can guess what happened to the guys chances of getting
any business...
Phill
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From: Ryan Anderson <randerso@ece.eng.wayne.edu>
Newsgroups: ailab.cypherpunks
Date: Monday, July 07, 1997 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: Hack the Mars rover
>On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Paul H. Merrill wrote:
>
>> I hate to be the one to tell you this, but taking someone's toy away
--
>> even just for awhile -- IS Denial of Service. And, yes, 'twould be
a
>> Blast to go joyriding.
>
>Yeah, it's still DoS, but it's not quite the same as just taking the
toy
>away from everyone..
>
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