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Re: NRA and National Online Records Check bullshit

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Bradley)
Tue Jul 1 12:52:17 1997

Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 14:46:25 +0000 (   )
From: Paul Bradley <paul@fatmans.demon.co.uk>
To: Lucky Green <shamrock@netcom.com>
Cc: Rabid Wombat <wombat@mcfeely.bsfs.org>, cypherpunks@algebra.com
In-Reply-To: <Pine.3.89.9706301850.A28965-0100000@netcom2>
Reply-To: Paul Bradley <paul@fatmans.demon.co.uk>


> The idea is that the criminal has received their punishment once released 
> from prison. Any further infringements on the person's rights are
> unacceptable. That includes the person's Natural Right to acquire 
> fully-automatic weapons, should he so desire. [BTW, the nature of the crime 
> committed is irrelevant].

Not so, I believe Kent pointed out the US statute that describes 
unreasonable punishment as being "cruel and unusual", banning ownership 
of firearms as part of the punishment for a violent crime seems perfectly 
reasonable to me, but foo on that anyway: punishment should fit the 
crime, if you commit murder or rape or any one of a number of such 
serious crimes I see no reason why you shouldn`t be punished cruelly.

I can see the point of view which accepts serving of sentence as being 
the end of punishment, and I do not accept a ban on firearms as being 
implicit in the commision of a felony, but if a court explicitly states 
that part of the punishment should be a X year or lifetime ban I can 
accept that.


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