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there is no middle ground (Re: The Grand Compromise is Coming)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Adam Back)
Thu Jun 26 19:37:53 1997

Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 10:18:04 +0100
From: Adam Back <aba@dcs.ex.ac.uk>
To: tcmay@got.net
Cc: cypherpunks@Algebra.COM
In-Reply-To: <v0310280bafd607388c55@[207.167.93.63]> (message from Tim May on
	Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:36:36 -0700)
Reply-To: Adam Back <aba@dcs.ex.ac.uk>


Tim May <tcmay@got.net> writes:
> But I don't get the point of what would be gained by my testimony. It
> wouldn't  help the Cause.

Reasoning was following on from Eric Murrays:

: how much further than completely free crypto can you go?

Most of the lobbyists as far as I can make out are talking in terms of
privacy from government, right to free speech.

Not in terms of eroding government power, avoiding taxes, making 
governments obsolete, nor in terms of hostility towards the legitimacy 
of government, it's methods etc.

So you might argue that this would make the privacy lobyists seem more
middle of the road.  However crypto is binary, either it's free, or
it's GAKked, so they (the privacy lobbyists) can't disavow crypto
anarchy, because it's a consequence of the technology and legal frame
work they want for privacy.  There's nothing in between.

My conclusion was that the crypto anarchy conclusions are pretty much 
in line with some of the NSAs scare stories and their spin is being 
used as an argument for GAK.

Adam
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