[82440] in Cypherpunks
Re: Wiener paper (was Re: Comparing Cryptographic Key Sizes)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tom Weinstein)
Wed Jun 25 02:37:49 1997
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 22:59:10 -0700
From: Tom Weinstein <tomw@netscape.com>
To: Adam Back <aba@dcs.ex.ac.uk>
Cc: davidlu@sco.com, trei@process.com, cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
Reply-To: Tom Weinstein <tomw@netscape.com>
Adam Back wrote:
>
> Re comments that I should re-read the paper, here is what Wiener's
> paper says about estimated costs of a specialized DES key breaker:
>
> $100,000 for a machine to break DES in an average of 35 hrs
> $1 mil for a machine to break DES in an average of 3.5 hrs
> $10 mil for a machine to break DES in an average of 21 mins
>
> It was as Peter says published in 1993.
>
> Wiener also budgets for $500,000 in design costs (wages, parts, fab
> etc).
>
> Another interesting part of the design is that it is based on a
> pipelined chip, clocked at 50Mhz which can try 50 Million keys/sec.
>
> 35 hours sounds a reasonable amount of time to break a Swift banking
> transfer key protecting trillions of dollars of funds.
One thing that I haven't heard anybody mention yet is that if time is
important, you can break keys in an arbitrarily short period of time,
if there's a continuous sequence of transactions. Assume it takes 35
hrs to crack a key (with 50% probability), This means that you have a
1.4% chance to crack it in one hour. If you give up after an hour and
pick a new transaction to crack, you have a 50% chance of cracking at
least one transaction after 48 hours, and they will all have been
cracked in less than an hour.
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