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Re: Steak Knife Decryption

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Bradley)
Sun Jun 8 07:42:18 1997

Date: Sun, 8 Jun 1997 11:57:02 +0000 (   )
From: Paul Bradley <paul@fatmans.demon.co.uk>
To: Brian Lane <nexus@eskimo.com>
Cc: Cyberdog <eric@clever.net>, cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
In-Reply-To: <339a38b3.40212914@mail.eskimo.com>
Reply-To: Paul Bradley <paul@fatmans.demon.co.uk>


>   Also, if the card was one of the Visa Debit cards (or even a real
> visa card
> for that matter) there are tons of places that it can be used without
> entering
> a PIN number or submitting to an ID check. Grocery stores and gas
> stations are
> two examples, although you cannot get cash from anywhere without using
> the PIN
> number (that I know of).

I don`t know about the USA but in the UK many large stores now have a 
system where when you make a transaction for shopping, you can ask for 
"cashback", so all you need is a signature to get cash from the card, 
however, I think the maximum amount per transaction is fairly low 
(something like $150) but there is nothing to stop someone going to a lot 
of different stores and repeating the process.

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