[81141] in Cypherpunks

home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post

Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lucky Green)
Wed Jun 4 04:32:20 1997

Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 00:33:46 -0700
To: 3umoelle@informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Ulf =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6ller?= ),
        cypherpunks@algebra.com
From: Lucky Green <shamrock@netcom.com>
Cc: rotenberg@epic.org
In-Reply-To: <m0wZ2RU-0003bAC@ulf.mali.sub.org>
Reply-To: Lucky Green <shamrock@netcom.com>

At 12:52 AM 6/4/97 GMT+0200, Ulf M=F6ller wrote:
>This is a gross exaggeration.  "Pattern investigation" can be used to
>investigate certain severe crimes that cannot be solved otherwise.  It
>must be warranted by a judge, naming the patterns that the respective
>committer is believed to match.  There have been three "pattern
>investigations" ever, since the law was passed in 1991 (none of them
>successful).

The German authorities conducted pattern investigations long before 1991.
The early 80's kidnapping of the industrialist comes to mind. [The
kidnapping that ultimately caused the suspected co-conspirators to be
sucided in their solitary confinement maximum security cells. Cells that
were under 24h audio surveilance. Unfortunatly, the tapes for that fatefu=
l
night mysteriously disappeared...]

But note the requirement you mention: "severe crimes...warranted by a
judge". Where have we heard this one before? Right. The four horsemen of
the infocalypse.


--Lucky Green <shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

  Put a stake through the heart of DES! Join the quest at
  http://www.frii.com/~rcv/deschall.htm


home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post