[79942] in Cypherpunks
Re: `careerpunks'
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Adam Shostack)
Tue May 13 08:50:11 1997
From: Adam Shostack <adam@homeport.org>
To: cypherpunks@toad.com (Cypherpunks Mailing List)
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 07:58:31 -0400 (EDT)
Reply-To: Adam Shostack <adam@homeport.org>
Adam Back wrote:
> Seems to me many of the `cypherpunks' have become `careerpunks' and
> are now more interested in trading crypto tips, trade gossip, than in
> cypherpunks projects.
>
> They went through the phase of buying kewl domain names (take a look
> down the subscriber lists), tinkering with remailers, and have now
> graduated to making money from crypto consulting, and lost interest in
> the issues where they don't add to the bottom line.
I disagree with your analysis. I'm working for a number of
large companies as a consultant. At each of them, I think I've done
things that substantially imrpove customer privacy. At one, I may
have sold them on role certificates "This certifies that the bearer
can access account 345567734545435." As opposed to "This is John
Smith." I think thats a huge win for privacy advocates, and hey, it
saves them work and money to do it this way. I could not have
convinced these people by posting to cypherpunks.
Selling your services does not involve selling out.
Adam
--
"It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once."
-Hume