[48457] in Cypherpunks
Re: more RANTING about NSA-friendly cpunks
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bruce Murphy)
Mon Jan 29 07:01:39 1996
To: "Vladimir Z. Nuri" <vznuri@netcom.com>
Cc: cypherpunks@toad.com
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jan 1996 13:04:02 PST."
<199601282104.NAA10926@netcom3.netcom.com>
Reply-To: packrat@tartarus.uwa.edu.au
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 19:58:45 +0800
From: Bruce Murphy <packrat@ratbox.rattus.uwa.edu.au>
In message <199601282104.NAA10926@netcom3.netcom.com>,
"Vladimir Z. Nuri" wrote:
>
> >In message <199601262011.MAA17408@netcom16.netcom.com>,
> > "Vladimir Z. Nuri" wrote:
> >>
> >> has anyone *tried* just ignoring the ITAR wrt crypto and seeing what
> >> would happen? the gubbermint blindly thinks that cyberspace will
> >> inevitably bring the wrath of four horsemen of the infocalypse, but aren't
{snip}
> >
> >Zimmerman.
>
{snip}
> Zimmermann supports my contention, as I wrote in the post. NOTHING
> happened to him. it is conceivable this same result could have
> been arrived at (government drops investigation) if he never even
> hired a lawyer.
>
> Zimmermann is a perfect example of what may be counterproductive
> hysteria on *our* side, toward advancing crypto. if Zimmermann
> cannot be prosecuted, and is not prosecuted, where are the ITAR "teeth"???
>
Nod. You may have a point there...
I'll tell you what, seeing as I *can't* export cryptostuff against
ITAR, what say *you* do it. Lots of it. And if nothing happens to you,
well and good.
OTOH the cause needs a few martyrs.
--
Packrat (BSc/BE;COSO;Wombat Admin)
Nihil illegitemi carborvndvm.