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Re: digital cash and identity disclosure

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mark Chen)
Thu Oct 19 16:23:48 1995

From: chen@intuit.com (Mark Chen)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com (cypherpunks)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 13:27:34 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <acabe4df3f021004b9f5@[205.199.118.202]> from "Timothy C. May" at Oct 19, 95 11:39:59 am

Tim wrote:

> "Double spending" detection is a REAL MESS. That's my basic conclusion. It
> tends to require schemes for going after double spenders, it tends to make
> identity-revealing attacks possible (such as the attack I alluded to, and
> that Hal more completely describes), and it's INELEGANT.
> 
> "Immediate clearing" is much more elegant, and is, I think, truer to the
> spirit of "annonymous digital cash" than most of these other schemes are.
> (Grep the FAQ for "online" or "online clearing" or "clearing" and you
> should find some stuff. Also, several articles--including one recently by
> me, about a month ago--go into the differences between the types of
> clearing.)

I also suggest taking a look at Stefan Brands' solution, which, while
requiring hardware, has some favorable properties.  Among these are:

   - prior restraint of double spending through hardware-based
   "secret-key certificates"

   - in the case of hardware tampering, double spenders are traceable
   as in Chaum's system; however, the protocol used to achieve this is
   much more efficient than Chaum's "cut-and-choose"

   - no possibility of a subliminal channel between the
   tamper-resistant device and the payee or bank


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