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Re: Elementrix Press Release

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jiri Baum)
Mon Oct 16 23:20:42 1995

From: Jiri Baum <jirib@cs.monash.edu.au>
To: s1018954@aix2.uottawa.ca
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 13:16:42 +1000 (EST)
Cc: jirib@cs.monash.edu.au, cypherpunks@toad.com
In-Reply-To: <Pine.3.89.9510112226.A75036-0100000@aix2.uottawa.ca> from "s1018954@aix2.uottawa.ca" at Oct 11, 95 11:02:45 pm

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s1018954@aix2.uottawa.ca wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Oct 1995, Jiri Baum wrote:
> 
> > Still, who knows what surprises QM can provide?
> > 
> > In which case calling it a "telepathic key exchange scheme" might
> > be quite appropriate :-)
> 
> I don't think that's what was meant. After all, using telepathy as a 
> secure channel, you'd still need a comm protocol.

Not really, you can use the raw bitstream as OTP. (Which is probably not
enough to warrant calling it a protocol, maybe protocolette :-)

> The last time I checked
> protocols and algorithms are one and the same. Since elementrix doesn't use
> algorithms, we shouldn't defame them by claiming they've invented secure
> telepathy.        

Well, you could claim that what they are using is not an algorithm since
it won't run on a Turing machine. At that stage you probably toss the
Church-Turing thesis out the window and get yourself a proper definition
of "algorithm".

> Now wouldn't that be interesting to patent?

Gives a new meaning to the phrase "subliminal channels" :-)

> (One wonders if elementrix employees occasionally indulge in guilty 
> glances at Knuth and Sedgewick without their bosses' knowledge.)

Well, wouldn't the bosses give them mind-scans to avoid this possibility?

Sorry, I forgot, Psi Corps doesn't allow that.


Jiri
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