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Re: All I did was properly crosspost!

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Carol Anne Braddock)
Fri Jan 6 12:56:57 1995

Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 11:43:16 -0600 (CST)
From: Carol Anne Braddock  <carolann@mm.com>
To: Nesta Stubbs <nesta@nesta.pr.mcs.net>
Cc: Cypherpunks <cypherpunks@toad.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.3.89.9501060852.B2432-0100000@nesta.pr.mcs.net>

On Fri, 6 Jan 1995, Nesta Stubbs wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Jan 1995, Carol Anne Braddock wrote:
> ten is not a large number when it comes o cross-posting on soem topics, I 
> can think of at lezast tewenty newsgroups where the PRZ letters and such 
> would make alot of sense and be on topic.  This just goes to show the 
> soemtimes reactionar steps people take to control spamming.  it leads to 
> people getting hurt, especially whent he sysop at your site is nto 
> intelligent enough to look aat the article, and see wether or not it was 
> cross-posted to valid groups etc..and not only that, but to completely 
> pull your account for such a small thing(ten groups?  that's nothing in 
> comparison to some aticles out there still going) What is the name of the 
> sysop at that site your account was pulled form?  
>  
His name is Michael Horwath, root@winternet.com

> > But to take my account away for crossposting to 10 groups is not right.
> >
> I agree, ten groups is a small amount, especially if they are at least 
> amrginally on topic.  
> 
> This is soemthing that we need to watch out for tho, it makes people 
> fearful of spreadung information, when evenif you spread it in a nice 
> manner, to on-topic groups etc.. that you face the chance of some bozo 
> net-vigilante complaining to your sysop and having your account yanked. 
> >From teh evidence here it seems the sysop acted in a reactionary manner, 
> probably out of fear of some asshole mailbombing your account.  
> 
> I heartily reccomend that those of you who do not know your sites 
> policies for such, become aquainted with them, or at least contact the 
> syspo and talk about this issue.  If you contact him and talk to him(her) 
> about it then they are less likely to react so quickly and IMO stupidly.  
> It's amazing how much just knowing your sysops first name helps in such a 
> situation.
> 
> As for MCs, I am not sure of their policies but Karl is very reliable, 
> and I doubt he would be so reactionary, in any case, I'll contact him 
> about such policies.
>  
> 

From carolann@vortex.mm.com Fri Jan  6 01:39:29 1995
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 21:57:05 -0600
From: Carol Anne Braddock <carolann@vortex.mm.com>
To: carolann@vortex.mm.com

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