[116624] in Cypherpunks
RE: FBI Spooks show off new fingerprint system.
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lucky Green)
Mon Aug 16 16:56:15 1999
From: "Lucky Green" <shamrock@cypherpunks.to>
To: "Adam Shostack" <adam@homeport.org>, "Black Unicorn" <unicorn@schloss.li>
Cc: "Jean-Francois Avon" <jf_avon@citenet.net>,
"Cypherpunks" <cypherpunks@toad.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 13:38:12 -0700
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Reply-To: "Lucky Green" <shamrock@cypherpunks.to>
The USG has already outlawed all effective, meaningful means of protecting a
home from invaders in the absence of the home owner. The means of protecting
the home in the presence of the home owner are in the process of being
abolished. This is not coincidental. Law enforcement needs crime. Most
precisely, in order to grow, law enforcement needs citizens unable to
protect themselves from criminal activity without assistance by law
enforcement officers.
[Before somebody asks the questions: no, I don't believe in giant
conspiracies. I am simply aware of the evolutionary pressures acting on
entities, such as governments and law enforcement].
--Lucky Green <shamrock@cypherpunks.to>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-cypherpunks@Algebra.COM
> [mailto:owner-cypherpunks@Algebra.COM]On Behalf Of Adam Shostack
> Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 13:57
> To: Black Unicorn
> Cc: Jean-Francois Avon; Cypherpunks
> Subject: Re: FBI Spooks show off new fingerprint system.
>
>
>
> So, I'm gonna gripe about what a load of shit this all is. If you
> don't want to listen to me gripe, go look for your 'd' key.
>
> My apartment was broken into. The police fucker didn't even get out
> of his car to come look at the crime scene. A detective will call
> in two to four days. I had to ask if anyone was going to bother
> fingerprinting the place. He didn't bother to tell me to not move the
> items that had been touched. Clearly, larceny is not as meaningful a
> crime as speeding, or parking without a permit.
>
> Country needs a low level formatting.
>
> Adam, on his way someplace civilized.
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 13, 1999 at 03:25:52PM -0500, Black Unicorn wrote:
> | > On Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:59:05 -0400, Edwin E. Smith wrote:
> |
> | > >The DNA thing worries me more, I think it is rather
> difficult to be sure
> | > >NOT to leave any DNA on the scene.
> |
> | Jean-Francois Avon replies:
> |
> | > Imagine all the horny teenager boys leaving trails of gooey
> | > kleenexes all around
> | > the country and how a little creative recycling of said kleenexes
> | > could be used
> | > to "get even", make examples or get rich... If I were a wealthy
> | > dad of such
> | > young man, I'd require that all the used kleenexes of the house
> | > be processed
> | > through the cross-cutting shredder...
> | >
> | > (well, maybe incinerator or toilet bowl would be more appropriate
> | > but I could
> | > not resist using the image of a teen using a shredder doing so! LOL!)
> |
> | I suspect that there might be a market for "De-DNA Spray." New
> from Johnson
> | Wax. Something that breaks up DNA chains nicely in 15 seconds flat
> | preventing further analysis.
> |
> | "Now with New Fresh Scent."
> |
> | Might as well make it a teen marketing program and run it next
> to Clearasil.
>
> --
> "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once."
> -Hume
>
>
>
