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Re: LEO Satellites

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ryan Lackey)
Sat Apr 3 13:03:25 1999

Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 13:47:58 -0400
From: Ryan Lackey <ryan@venona.com>
To: cypherpunks@algebra.com
Cc: shamrock@netcom.com
Reply-To: Ryan Lackey <ryan@venona.com>

Lucky Green <shamrock@netcom.com> said:
> Can anybody here point me to a comparison of Iridium, Globalstar, and
> Teldesic [sic]?  My interest in LEO satellites is on the increase. 

A friend of mine at MIT did her SM thesis on comparing satellite systems
using the "t1-minute" metric.  She's trying to get permission from her
advisor to post it.  I will continue bugging her about it.  I have
bcc'd her on this mail in an attempt to motivate :)

There is also some group in the UK (at University of Surrey, Surrey 
Space Centre" ) which did 
satellite constellation mapping programs and comparisons.  Check out
http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/SSC/

My own memory is:

Iridium:
$2/minute voice, exists now
No data gateway online as of yet, 2400 bps when it happens (through weirdness
it might be possible to do 4800 or 9600bps)

ORBCOMM
$0.01/character (yes, I want some of that crack too)
tiny tx/rx units
available nowish

Teledesic
$800/month for global roming t1
pie-in-the-sky plan by Microsoft...it's just FUD IMO to screw everyone else

Inmarsat
GEO, so not meeting your criteria, but has been here for a long time,
doesn't suck, is still expensive, has a bunch of options, but annoying
latency

Globalstar
Will offer 9600bps data, isn't here yet, should be similar to Iridium



I also find several of them scary as they require tracking user-stations
on the ground for incoming transmissions.  I'd prefer something like
a global pager, which broadcasts on all transmitters brief encrypted
pages, but that would get *expensive*.  Being able to localize someone
to an Iridium cell or subcell would be...useful to the wrong people.


Cheers,
Ryan
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