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Re: Gently nurturing the misguided hacker with baseball bats

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Chris Wysopal)
Wed Mar 24 15:21:30 1999

Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 15:06:37 -0500 (EST)
From: Chris Wysopal <cwysopal@skywriting.com>
To: "Arnold G. Reinhold" <reinhold@world.std.com>
cc: Vin McLellan <vin@shore.net>, Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@ai.mit.edu>,
        Robert Hettinga <rah@shipwright.com>,
        Peter Trei <ptrei@securitydynamics.com>, dcsb@ai.mit.edu,
        cypherpunks@cyberpass.net, cryptography@c2.net,
        Digital Bearer Settlement List <dbs@philodox.com>
In-Reply-To: <v03130301b31eeb0a79fb@[24.128.119.92]>
Reply-To: Chris Wysopal <cwysopal@skywriting.com>


How about getting 2 of your competitors who engange in this type of active
countermeasures to attack each other. Attack each of them disguising the
attacks to come from their networks.  Misdirection is easy on the
unauthenticated internet.

How many times have we seen "closely coordinated attacks coming from
Russia, Pakistan, and Brazil to the Pentagon." In reality they have no
idea where they are coming from.

-Chris

On Wed, 24 Mar 1999, Arnold G. Reinhold wrote:

> At 2:07 AM -0500 3/24/99, Vin McLellan wrote:
> >
> >        The truth is, smart anti-hacker vigilantes are probably no more
> >likely to be identified or caught than the typical car thief or other
> >street-savvy crook. Good odds -- maybe even the basis for a viable business
> >plan.
> 
> On the other hand, there may be a business opportunity for a smart hacker,
> preferably underage, to go poking at major corporate sites in the hope of
> provoking the guys with baseball bats and capturing them on video tape.
> The eventual legal settlement could more than pay for college. The best
> part is he wouldn't have to be all that good technically, just good enought
> to be a concern.
> 
> Arnold Reinhold
> 
> 
> 
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