[107848] in Cypherpunks
A digital way to filter.
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tim May)
Mon Jan 25 22:02:37 1999
In-Reply-To: <199901260006.SAA08385@einstein.ssz.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 18:33:48 -0800
To: cypherpunks@algebra.com
From: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
Reply-To: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
At 4:06 PM -0800 1/25/99, Jim Choate wrote:
>
>Fuck you and the horse you rode in on Timmy.
>
Such wit! Such originality! So unsurprising that the supposed insult
"Timmy" is used. Shades of Detweiler.
>>Bzzzzt!! Wrong answer. Bohm was not the Many Worlds guy. In fact, he was
>>strongly critical of it. Cf. his "Wholeness and the Implicate Order" or
>>"The Undivided Universe" for more on his views. Cf. especially his "pilot
>>wave" interpretation.
>
>Bzzzzzzt!! Double wrong answer on your part. Bohms first couple of papers
>were related to the original Many Worlds theory. While it is true that he
>didn't hold it in the later part of his life (re Undivided Universe) it
>was one of his initial models. The papers came out in mid to late 50's
>before he got canned for his commie tendencies.
Nope. Bohm's early papers were well over a decade earlier, in the
mid-1940s. His "first couple of papers" were most definitely _not_ on
Everett's Many Worlds theory. For example, by 1951 he had already written
his classic textbook, "Quantum Theory." And he wrote his second major book,
"Causality and Chance in Modern Physics" in the late 50s. Everett's paper
was in '57, and Bohm actually contributed little to the Many Worlds
interpretation.
As for the "before he got canned for his commie tendencies," perhaps you
should review the chronology of Sen. Joe McCarthy. (Hint: Bohm was
blackballed and left the U.S. before Everett's paper had even appeared.)
>
>In "Unidivided Universe" on pp. 336 he even admits there there is a way
>(dynamic decoherence) to look at the Many Worlds that addresses one of his
>major objections to the two theories as currently presented.
>
>One suggestion Timmy, never try to argue with me by using books I've read.
>
Your problem is _understanding_ the books you read. As with your bizarre
interpretations of Gauss' Theorem and the ways charges and fields work. Or
your naive ramblings about breakthroughs in factoring.
But, like other famous crackpots, you do admittedly have boundless energy
in filling page after page with your "calculations."
You apparently have a career ahead of you as a net.loon. Ludwig Plutonium
will be jealous.
--Tim May
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