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Re: CDR: Re: Adieu Privacy: Intel identifiziert Chips (fwd)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jim Choate)
Thu Jan 21 19:00:55 1999

From: Jim Choate <ravage@EINSTEIN.ssz.com>
To: cypherpunks@EINSTEIN.ssz.com
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:44:34 -0600 (CST)
Reply-To: Jim Choate <ravage@EINSTEIN.ssz.com>


----- Forwarded message from Lucky Green -----

Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:40:27 +0100 (CET)
From: Lucky Green <shamrock@cypherpunks.to>
Subject: Re: CDR: Re: Adieu Privacy: Intel identifiziert Chips

On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Jim Burnes - Denver wrote:
 
> Oh...and the obvious followup.  Intel is not the only x86
> player on the market.  AMD is becoming a popular alternative
> (especially in the gaming market where piracy is rampant).
> Not to mention Cyrix etc etc.

Since CPU's lacking the ID features will be unable to run the modern
applications of the future, market pressures will force manufacturers of
Intel compatible CPU's to add equivalent identifers.

----- End of forwarded message from Lucky Green -----

No it won't. There is absolutely no market force that would require software
makers to ever even use the ID in the first place unless their customers
want it. For anything less expensive than about $10k/seat there isn't any
force. Just look at the Sun software market for a perfect example. It works
for a vertical market, the computer market isn't vertical by any stretch of
the imagination.

Just imagine the hassle of trying to buy software at Comp USA if you have to
take your cpu ID in, have them burn the ID into the software to make it
usable, etc. Who does the customer support in that case?

Besides, it would be relatively trivial to pull the CPU and insert a monitor
pcb that looks for the particular ID fetch sequence and deliver whatever ID
one desired via switch settings.


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