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Re: CDR: Re: Adieu Privacy: Intel identifiziert Chips

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jim Burnes - Denver)
Thu Jan 21 13:13:56 1999

Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:30:49 -0700 (MST)
From: Jim Burnes - Denver <jim.burnes@ssds.com>
To: Jim Burnes - Denver <jim.burnes@ssds.com>
cc: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@openpgp.net>, cypherpunks@einstein.ssz.com
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.3.91.990121091647.7045A-100000@denver>
Reply-To: Jim Burnes - Denver <jim.burnes@ssds.com>

On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Jim Burnes - Denver wrote:

> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:21:20 -0700 (MST)
> From: Jim Burnes - Denver <jim.burnes@ssds.com>
> To: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@openpgp.net>
> Cc: cypherpunks@einstein.ssz.com
> Subject: Re: CDR: Re: Adieu Privacy: Intel identifiziert Chips
> 
> On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, William H. Geiger III wrote:
> 
> William Gieger posted:
> 
> > Lemos
> > January 20, 1999 11:42 AM PT Intel Corp. will unveil plans to  embed
> > identification numbers in its PC processors on 
> > .....
> > "On the one hand it offers more security -- for e-commerce 
> > and information security," said Barry Steinhardt, associate 
> > director and privacy expert at the American Civil Liberties 
> > Union,  "As a pure privacy issue, it allows for a means of 
> > tracking individuals on the Net."
> > .....
> > The plan calls for Intel to put a machine-specific ID and a 
> > random number generator in every processor, said sources 
> > familiar with the plans.
> > 
> > The random-number generator will aid e-commerce by 
> > allowing PCs to encrypt data more securely, while the ID 
> > numbers will allow merchants to verify a user's identity and  prevent
> > stolen PCs from getting on the Internet. 
> 
> This only matters if Intel is the only processor available
> on the net.  And thats only important in Win95 is the only
> OS on the net.
> 
> With the spreading popularity of Linux and its availability
> on a wide number of CPU's that will no longer be a given.
> 
> Non-intel, PCI bus compatible systems will proliferate if
> Intel starts playing games like this.
> 
> Keep crypto where it belongs -- in source code where I can
> see it.  This is not about crypto.  This smells like a big
> law-enforcement/licenseing grab.
> 
> jim
> 
> 

Oh...and the obvious followup.  Intel is not the only x86
player on the market.  AMD is becoming a popular alternative
(especially in the gaming market where piracy is rampant).
Not to mention Cyrix etc etc.

jim


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