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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Anonymous)
Wed Jan 20 14:30:17 1999

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 19:52:47 +0100
From: Anonymous <nobody@replay.com>
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Reply-To: Anonymous <nobody@replay.com>

so what do you want from me?  a tube of K-Y jelly to smother on your ass to help alleviate the pain of being savagely buttfucked by YOUR Big Brother?

i've lived in China and i've done time in prison, so fucking what?

i would offer to marry you and save you from that horrible country you live in, but you sit on your ass and bitch too much....the marriage just wouldn't work.

fuck crypto freedom!  fuck human rights!  fuck privacy!  send me to Singapore and force me to marry a beautiful woman, eat curry and get caned daily for breathing air!

either get off your ass and do something, or shut yer fucking hole.

-- Jack Ass

PGP Fingerprint:  F117 36D2 3624 36D2 38DD  123A BC45 777A F888 34AA

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Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 04:30:18 +0100
From: Anonymous <nobody@replay.com>
To: cypherpunks@toad.com

You americans are cribbing so much about big brother watching you
every step of the way.
be thankful you are not in a country like singapore.
well, I live in singapore, and the governmt is
more like big uncle here . they "watch out" for you every step of the way

forget crypto. look at the basic lifestyle here. CHEWING GUM is banned and
you can go to jail for importing or chewing gum. assholes.
all movies are censored. no "adults only" scene is allowed. not even 
small shots of nudity. they think we'll all get corrupted. goes without
saying that skin mags are banned. If they find a playboy in your posession
you get at least a $1000 fine and time in jail. well heck, this is just
a little bit...

there are no such thing as fair elections. the present PAP (Peoples action
party) has been ruling ever since I care to remember. The opposition doesnt
have a chance since there's no such thing as fair elections anyway. if you
raise your voice against the government for a real cause, you get into the
bad boooks of the big shots and you get carted off to jail for the slightest
offense. If you're politically "marked", you could land a 1 year jail term
for spitting on the sidewalk.

Oh, and spitting = $500 fine, littering = $1000, eating on trains/buses =$1000,
smoking on trains / buses = $1000, fines go up to $5000.
the whole country is networked by a system of spies. the govt offers anyone
$10,000 if they squeal on software pirates. All backed up by BSA and micro$oft.
several cab drivers are government informers and they are paid to sniff out
dissidents and possible "trouble makers".

Of course, you don't have any say in the way the country is run. the government
is "good" amnd they decide what is "good" for the "people". recently they have
decided that it's ok for employers to cut salaries and CPF contributions
without even thinking that the employees themselves would get affected...
becoz if this, most home owners are not able to make their monthly mortgate
payments and the interest due keeps rising. 

Oh, and of course, if you're caught doing drugs, it's the death penalty.
There's usually no trial and you're executed within a couple of days. I'm
not saying that's bad, but recently a young couple who had 15 grams of heroin
in their posession were sentenced to death, and their 3 year old child is 
in hospital now without anyone to look after it.

all citizens / permanent residens have ALL their personal info on the
centrel computing base - includes fingerprints, life history, etc
etc etc... so that they can track your every move. 

there are survellance cameras at every conceivable location for
big uncle to spy on every move you make. yesterday I was totally stunned
when I realized that every SINGLE pillar that supports the overhead train
system is wired with 4 miniature cameras on 4 sides and sensors. I could
nt believe this.

of course, cars are unaffordable to the general public. a crappy Honda civic 
costs $150,000 - yes you read that correct. you still find the rich
bastards driving around ion BMWs, Mercedez, rolls royce, Jaguars and
other big time cars. A crappy HDB flat costs $200,000, and an independent
house with a small garden is beyond thw wildest dreams of the common man
- $ 1 million to $2 million.

i Guess you can expect nothing better from a country which is ruled by
a self appointed "council" oof "knowledgable elders". 

Shit! Guys, you Americans are a REALLY FORTUNATE lot. Look at other
countries worse off than you ! Crypto restrictions are not a really
great price to pay for other kinds of freedom you have. I'm sure
you would not want to live in a military state like singapore.



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