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Re: US Citizen vs Citizen of [one of] the United States

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Soren)
Fri Jan 1 08:20:29 1999

Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 09:07:18 -0500
From: Soren <sorens@workmail.com>
To: cyphers <cypherpunks@cyberpass.net>
Reply-To: Soren <sorens@workmail.com>

> ... and more of the same
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>   The necessity of due process is implicitly preserved by 28 USC § 2463, which stipulates that any seizure under United States
>   revenue laws will be deemed in the custody of the law and subject solely to disposition of courts of the United States with
>   proper jurisdiction. In other words, even if IRS had legitimate authority in the several States, the agency would of necessity have to
>   file a civil or criminal complaint prior to garnishment, seizure or any other action adversely affecting the life, liberty or property of
>   any given person, whether a ...
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>   (start ital)Fourteenth Amendment citizen-subject of the United States(end ital) or a (start ital)Citizen principal of one of the several
>   States(end ital).
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>   ... Due process assurances in the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments do not equivocate -- administrative seizures without due
>   process can be equated only to tyranny and barbarian rule. Further, even regulations governing IRS conduct acknowledge and
>   therefore preserve Fifth Amendment assurances at 26 CFR § 601.106(f)(1).
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> and
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>   The territorial application, and limitation, is made clear by definitions in Title 26 of the Code of Federal Regulations, as follows:
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>   § 31.3121(3)-1 State, United States, and citizen. (a) When used in the regulations in this subpart, the term "State" includes the
>   District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, the Territories of Alaska and Hawaii before their
>   admission as States, and (when used with respect to services performed after 1960 Guam and American Samoa. (b) When used in the
>   regulations in this subpart, the term "United States", when used in a geographical sense, means the several states (including the
>   Territories of Alaska and Hawaii before their admission as States), the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, and
>   the Virgin Islands. When used in the regulations in this subpart with respect to services performed after 1960, the term "United States" also includes Guam and
>   American Samoa when the term is used in a geographical sense.
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>   The term (start ital)"citizen of the United States"(end ital) includes a citizen of the
>   Commonwealth of Puerto Rico or the Virgin Islands, and, effective January 1, 1961, a citizen of Guam or American Samoa.
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> ... excerpted from Http://home.erols.com/scambos/pubnotic.htm
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