[107099] in Cypherpunks
Re: Norway - go to jail for naming baby illegal [CNN] (fwd)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Soren)
Fri Jan 1 07:22:24 1999
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 08:13:40 -0500
From: Soren <sorens@workmail.com>
To: cyphers <cypherpunks@cyberpass.net>
Reply-To: Soren <sorens@workmail.com>
Jim Choate wrote:
> Forwarded message:
>
> > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 19:57:17 -0800
> > From: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
> > Subject: RE: Norway - go to jail for naming baby illegal [CNN]
>
> >
> > Is that written into the Constitution? I wasn't aware of that. If so, I
> > will have learned something new tonight, perhaps the last major new thing I
> > learn in 1998.
>
> No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United
> States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible
> to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that
> Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been
> fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
>
> The first sentence is normaly considered the legal standard that is being
> referenced here. It's the only place in the Constitution that refers to how
> one actualy gains citizenship. There are apparently three (one unmentioned)
> ways:
>
> 1. natural born (ie being physicaly born on US soil) is the highest
> measure of 'American' citizenship
>
> 2. being a citizen of the US at the time of ratification
>
> 3. Unementioned, but implied by the stipulation of 1. for the
> office of president. The intent is commenly held that this
> prevents foreign nationals of long-standing from bringing
> foreign influence into the office. Implicit is that the
> legislature set relevant standards.
>
Amendment XIV.
Citizenship rights not to be abridged.
1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the
jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein
they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the
privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State
deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without
due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.
5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the
provisions of this article.
The notorious 14th, which established a federal US citizenship. Used to include
people as being subject to the 16th for purposes of taxation. The IRS code
identifies that only US citizens and federal employees are subject.
The process is still to be naturalized by a state (i.e. you become a citizen of
the state and republic of California, Tejas etc ...). As a naturalized citizen
of a state of the Union, you have certain rights and reciprocity in the other
states based upon the 'treaty' commonly called the Constitution and Bill of
Rights.
