[105221] in Cypherpunks
Re: Advertising Creepiness
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tim May)
Sun Nov 8 20:55:16 1998
In-Reply-To: <19981108134525.A26515@tightrope.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 17:34:06 -0800
To: Steve Mynott <stevem@tightrope.demon.co.uk>, cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
From: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
Reply-To: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
At 5:45 AM -0800 11/8/98, Steve Mynott wrote:
>On Sat, Nov 07, 1998 at 11:50:05PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
>
>> Myself, I try to mostly just snip out a few paragraphs of a story and
>> comment on them, fair use and all.
>
>I particularly dislike articles that are things forwarded from other
>lists without comment (IP seems a particular offender here). These are
>rarely interesting.
Especially irksome when the same story, available widely in realtime at
Yahoo, Excite, Dejanews, Lycos, etc., arrives on the Cypherpunks list from
3 clueless forwarders.
>
>It would give a brave browser manufactor (Opera?) quite an advantage if
>they built the banner ad killer into the browser directly.
>
I expect banner ads to die out soon enough. The technology is just too
amenable to filters.
Adbusters for television have been talked about for years, but I know of no
reliable adbusters...and an adbuster for t.v. doesn't save too much (since
the 2-minute or whatever gap is still there). Taping and then
fast-forwarding through ads is probably more convenient than an adbuster in
realtime.
But for the Web, the arms race between adbusters and ad providers...seems
likely to be lost for the ad makers.
Once some mainstream adbusters appear.
I wonder if advertisers will try to cite some right to enjoin ad busters
from busting their ads? (Far-fetched, perhaps. But imagine if a particular
version of this filtering occurrred...imagine the howls if Microsoft
Explorer automatically filtered out the ads of companies it disliked or was
competing against? Legal? Restraint of trade?)
--Tim May
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