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Re: dbts: Privacy Fetishes, Perfect Competition, and the Foregone (fwd)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jim Choate)
Sun Nov 8 17:25:57 1998

From: Jim Choate <ravage@EINSTEIN.ssz.com>
To: cypherpunks@EINSTEIN.ssz.com (Cypherpunks Distributed Remailer)
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 15:41:32 -0600 (CST)
Reply-To: Jim Choate <ravage@EINSTEIN.ssz.com>

Forwarded message:

> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 21:22:19 +0100
> From: Anonymous <nobody@replay.com>
> From: nicolo@mach.iavel.li
> Subject: Re: dbts: Privacy Fetishes, Perfect Competition, and the Foregone

> State is not "created" or "set up". This assumes in-born willingness and
> desire of subjects to have a state, and that a state becomes because
> so-called "people" need it. Or that having a state is somehow natural
> order of things.

Read the first paragraph of the Constitution of the US for a clear and
present refutation of this thesis.

> A state is just an extension of a tribal power structure, or, deeper

No, state is an extension of monetary regulatory systems and the need to
keep them stable for continued tribal power structure growth.

A 'state' is nothing more than a set of laws, social institutions, and
some level of respect for civil liberties.

A society is what happens when these are put in place and operated upon by
real live weird people.


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