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Re: Random array

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Greg Rose)
Fri Oct 30 16:37:52 1998

Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 10:05:33 +1000
To: Coderpunks <coderpunks@toad.com>
From: Greg Rose <ggr@Qualcomm.com>
In-Reply-To: <3639ED05.2BDEE0F@acm.org>
Reply-To: Greg Rose <ggr@Qualcomm.com>

At 08:44 30/10/98 -0800, Jim Gillogly wrote:
>[bad idea deleted...]
>So the six possible permutations of abc have this probability:
>abc: 5/27
>acb: 5/27
>bac: 4/27
>bca: 4/27
>cab: 4/27
>cba: 5/27
>
>This is a subtle effect and wouldn't be noticeable for 256 elements,

Actually, there is a paper somewhere which I saw once, and have been
totally unable to find ever since, which proves that as the number of
elements increases, the discrepancy in probabilities for this incorrect
algorithm *increases*. By that, I mean that the ratio of probabilities of
the most probable outcomes and the least probable, increases. This is a
counterintuitive result, which I can't prove myself, although it looked
like a correct proof at the time. If anyone knows the proof (or the paper)
I'd really appreciate it. This is one of my pet subjects.

>Please God don't let this mutate into the Monty Hall argument!

I think I'm going to regret asking, but... what is the Monty Hall argument?
Or did you mean the Monty Python argument ("I came here for a good
argument!" "No you didn't... you came here for an argument.")? Feel free to
answer off the list if that would be better. 

Greg.

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