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Re: locked out of my debathena workstation

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jonathan D Reed)
Sat Mar 14 21:11:53 2015

From: Jonathan D Reed <jdreed@mit.edu>
To: Quentin Smith <quentin@mit.edu>
CC: Alexander Chernyakhovsky <achernya@mit.edu>,
        Alex T Prengel
	<alexp@mit.edu>,
        "release-team@mit.edu" <release-team@mit.edu>
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 01:11:45 +0000
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Oh, good call.  That would make sense.   Unfortunately, there’s no root password for Alex to trivially log in and fix this.  We can reboot into single-user mode in person on Monday, of course.  I vaguely wonder if bumping the key in kadmin would trigger a different failure in pam_krb5, such that Alex could log in, but I suspect not.

If this turns out to be the cause, we’ll definitely need to do some outreach (e.g. what jweiss has been doing with dialup users’ non-null instances) before this goes into production, I guarantee there are other machines out there which are in a similar state.   Can a principal always getprinc itself?  I assume running kadmin in the maintainer script is a terrible idea…

-Jon


On Mar 14, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Quentin Smith <quentin@mit.edu> wrote:

> It looks like Alex's host/dit.mit.edu principal is still single-DES; I'm guessing this failure is because pam_krb5 is trying to get a service ticket to protect from the Zanarotti attack.
> 
> --Quentin
> 
> On Sat, 14 Mar 2015, Alex Chernyakhovsky wrote:
> 
>> I checked on mkc, which is a fully updated alpha workstation (development) and had no issues.
>> Workstations take updates automatically, so you may have had the update happen while you where logged in.
>> -Alex
>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2015, 8:24 PM Alex Prengel <alexp@mit.edu> wrote:
>>      So Jon's reply answers this? But since I was logged in for a week at the
>>      time the problem started I couldn't have taken an update that might have
>>      caused this anyway.
>> 
>>                                        A.
>> 
>>      On 03/14/2015 12:35 PM, Alex Chernyakhovsky wrote:
>>      > Hi,
>>      >
>>      > On Friday, Ben Kaduk moved a new copy of kerberos-config to proposed.
>>      > I believe that will affect the beta workstations; the notable change
>>      > is that allow_weak_crypto got turned off. Is your Athena password by
>>      > any chance still using DES-only? That would explain these symptoms.
>>      >
>>      > Sincerely,
>>      > -Alex
>>      >
>>      > On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Alex T Prengel <alexp@mit.edu> wrote:
>>      >> Hi,
>>      >>
>>      >> I'm suddenly unable to log into my desktop machine (dit.mit.edu), debathena
>>      >> workstation running Precise, since yesterday afternoon. I get
>>      >> "authentication failure" on a graphical login attempt, a ctrl-alt-f1
>>      >> terminal login attempt, and ssh attempts from other machines. I'm able to
>>      >> log into other Athena machines, both locally and by ssh without problems.
>>      >> I'm not sure if or when an update might have triggered this as I was logged
>>      >> into the machine continuously since last Monday.
>>      >>
>>      >> Has anyone else seen this on beta workstations?
>>      >>
>>      >>
>>      >> Alex



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