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Re: Low UIDs and GIDs

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael R. Gettes)
Mon Feb 23 11:05:35 2009

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From: "Michael R. Gettes" <gettes@MIT.EDU>
To: Jonathan Reed <jdreed@mit.edu>
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My apologies for my delayed response to this...

My read from your reply is there is no solution unless we
crawl AFS.  I am not yet seeing any other alternative so
we need to find out what it will take to solve this, yes?
One crawl of AFS to gather the info in a file or small DB
and then we can go against that for relative comfort.

/mrg

On Feb 11, 2009, at 12:06, Jonathan Reed wrote:

>> ok, so a proper response to this analysis (from me) would be "oh  
>> crap".
>
> Yup.
>
>> This is quite a significant problem from a user support perspective.
>> Do we think there is some "easy-ish" mechanism we could put in place
>> to migrate users to different UIDs and hopefully deal with the  
>> problems
>> as they come thru such a mechanism?  Maybe a web page to "heal my  
>> UID"
>> and it does all the right magic behind the scenes if the user is  
>> logged
>> out of all unix instances?  Maybe same thing for the GIDs?
>
> I believe the answer is "No, not really", since while we can easily  
> change the UID, and mostly easily fix permissions in the user's  
> locker, we can't easily crawl AFS and find every instance of a  
> directory with that PTS ID on it and fix it, as well as fixing the  
> owner/group of the files themselves.  Nor do I think can we leave it  
> to the users to fix it every time they encounter something in AFS  
> they used to be able to access but no longer can.
>
> It may be that the majority of these users don't have much in AFS  
> outside their homedir, but we can't know that until we crawl AFS,  
> for which we currently lack a tool (ops' "janitor" can, in theory,  
> be modified).
>
> -Jon
>


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